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KenGen HY 2019
VituVingiSana
#221 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:03:14 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,365
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
Why can't NSE companies have a set date for reporting Full year financials like Safaricom does?


True and valid point.

Transparency issues; that's why information is always skewed in favour of insiders and their cronies. The rest of us wake up to find the results and other material announcements when it's too late to act.


FY results expected this coming week.


Week ends tomorrow

Confirming if the results will be released tomorrow.


Hakuna Auditor General wa kusign accounts.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly That puts CMA in a pickle. Does it keep giving KPLC and KenGen extensions?
Then what happens to KenRe?

The Deputy Auditor general will do the necessary


There is no provision for deputy auditor general in signing accounts....thats why whereas there is a deputy AG, he is not acting as Auditor General...but anyway, there could be precedents....for these listed companies , as long as they have external auditors....this may suffice...Though I dont know how it will chance out.


Are we saying no results until Auditor General is nominated, vetted, approved, takes office?

That might take 2 years Sad


This should be the week for both KPLC & KenGen....AG or no AG...infact its better this way.


Two days to go


KPLC ,KenGen , and EAPC have received waivers notice to CMA,from office of AG to exempt them from AG audit and opinion for the financial year ending June 2019. So the issue of AG absence is past.

possibility Friday and Saturday.



Who waived this requirement if the office that should waive doesn't have a substantive holder?

CMA agreed waive the requirement
Why when you said "The Deputy Auditor general will do the necessary"?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#222 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:32:28 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,815
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
Why can't NSE companies have a set date for reporting Full year financials like Safaricom does?


True and valid point.

Transparency issues; that's why information is always skewed in favour of insiders and their cronies. The rest of us wake up to find the results and other material announcements when it's too late to act.


FY results expected this coming week.


Week ends tomorrow

Confirming if the results will be released tomorrow.


Hakuna Auditor General wa kusign accounts.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly That puts CMA in a pickle. Does it keep giving KPLC and KenGen extensions?
Then what happens to KenRe?

The Deputy Auditor general will do the necessary


There is no provision for deputy auditor general in signing accounts....thats why whereas there is a deputy AG, he is not acting as Auditor General...but anyway, there could be precedents....for these listed companies , as long as they have external auditors....this may suffice...Though I dont know how it will chance out.


Are we saying no results until Auditor General is nominated, vetted, approved, takes office?

That might take 2 years Sad


This should be the week for both KPLC & KenGen....AG or no AG...infact its better this way.


Two days to go


KPLC ,KenGen , and EAPC have received waivers notice to CMA,from office of AG to exempt them from AG audit and opinion for the financial year ending June 2019. So the issue of AG absence is past.

possibility Friday and Saturday.



Who waived this requirement if the office that should waive doesn't have a substantive holder?

CMA agreed waive the requirement
Why when you said "The Deputy Auditor general will do the necessary"?


The Deputy general can facilitate waiver since he ain't a substantial holder of office
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#223 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:10:58 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
Why can't NSE companies have a set date for reporting Full year financials like Safaricom does?


True and valid point.

Transparency issues; that's why information is always skewed in favour of insiders and their cronies. The rest of us wake up to find the results and other material announcements when it's too late to act.


FY results expected this coming week.


Week ends tomorrow

Confirming if the results will be released tomorrow.


Hakuna Auditor General wa kusign accounts.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly That puts CMA in a pickle. Does it keep giving KPLC and KenGen extensions?
Then what happens to KenRe?

The Deputy Auditor general will do the necessary


There is no provision for deputy auditor general in signing accounts....thats why whereas there is a deputy AG, he is not acting as Auditor General...but anyway, there could be precedents....for these listed companies , as long as they have external auditors....this may suffice...Though I dont know how it will chance out.


Are we saying no results until Auditor General is nominated, vetted, approved, takes office?

That might take 2 years Sad


This should be the week for both KPLC & KenGen....AG or no AG...infact its better this way.


Two days to go


KPLC ,KenGen , and EAPC have received waivers notice to CMA,from office of AG to exempt them from AG audit and opinion for the financial year ending June 2019. So the issue of AG absence is past.

possibility Friday and Saturday.



Who waived this requirement if the office that should waive doesn't have a substantive holder?

CMA agreed waive the requirement


Noted. Waiting for the Kengen results. Hope dividend will equal or exceed last year.
Life is short. Live passionately.
young
#224 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:12:32 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2007
Posts: 2,075
Location: Lagos, Nigeria
Horton wrote:
sparkly wrote:
young wrote:
For Diversification purposes KENGEN is one of the best out of the worst in Non Finance sector .
Other from my point of view for new entrants includes

Safaricom
Scan group
EABL
FAHR REIT



Scan group and FAHR better than Kengen? Are you out of your mind?


Sparkly I think Mzee young deserves respect for his age, experience and opinions. No need to be brash




Thanks @Horton
Hakuna matata dear @VVS
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Extraterrestrial
#225 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:00:54 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 11/17/2018
Posts: 173
Location: Mars
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
Why can't NSE companies have a set date for reporting Full year financials like Safaricom does?


True and valid point.

Transparency issues; that's why information is always skewed in favour of insiders and their cronies. The rest of us wake up to find the results and other material announcements when it's too late to act.


FY results expected this coming week.


Week ends tomorrow

Confirming if the results will be released tomorrow.


Hakuna Auditor General wa kusign accounts.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly That puts CMA in a pickle. Does it keep giving KPLC and KenGen extensions?
Then what happens to KenRe?

The Deputy Auditor general will do the necessary


There is no provision for deputy auditor general in signing accounts....thats why whereas there is a deputy AG, he is not acting as Auditor General...but anyway, there could be precedents....for these listed companies , as long as they have external auditors....this may suffice...Though I dont know how it will chance out.


Are we saying no results until Auditor General is nominated, vetted, approved, takes office?

That might take 2 years Sad


This should be the week for both KPLC & KenGen....AG or no AG...infact its better this way.


Two days to go


KPLC ,KenGen , and EAPC have received waivers notice to CMA,from office of AG to exempt them from AG audit and opinion for the financial year ending June 2019. So the issue of AG absence is past.

possibility Friday and Saturday.



Who waived this requirement if the office that should waive doesn't have a substantive holder?

CMA agreed waive the requirement


Noted. Waiting for the Kengen results. Hope dividend will equal or exceed last year.



Price action shows a queue at the exit and some participants have started pushing...
FUNKY
#226 Posted : Thursday, October 24, 2019 2:23:42 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/30/2010
Posts: 1,635
murchr
#227 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2019 3:01:19 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
FUNKY wrote:
https://kenyanwallstreet.com/kengen-awarded-sh-5-8-billion-contract-to-drill-geothermal-wells-in-ethiopia/


Excellent!
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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FUNKY
#228 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2019 10:11:50 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/30/2010
Posts: 1,635
Surprising even after such a good announcement no price swing today
Ericsson
#229 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2019 10:41:44 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,815
Location: NAIROBI
FUNKY wrote:
Surprising even after such a good announcement no price swing today


The good announcement people are waiting for is release of FY results
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#230 Posted : Friday, October 25, 2019 11:26:29 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
FUNKY wrote:
Surprising even after such a good announcement no price swing today


Waiting for the bottom-line
Life is short. Live passionately.
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