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Briatm, Britam, Britam sounds like sweet candy!
DBLyon
#441 Posted : Thursday, March 17, 2016 3:27:41 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@kiash;
They are having biggest dreams.Real estate dream ended when the grand coalition mandate came into power.
This jubilee clowns have messed up the economy from where the Kibaki era left it by their grand corruption and theft;


Really, Ericsson? Is this a real response to the question about how companies will fare in real estate? Or is it a joke? Or did you post it on this thread by mistake? ---> Going to check what comments Ericsson generally makes...
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hisah
#442 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 4:06:27 PM
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Closed right at the 10 handle today. Hopelessness will check in as the price slips below 10. The FY results should boost the pessimism just like PAFR.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Spikes
#443 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 4:22:01 PM
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hisah wrote:
Closed right at the 10 handle today. Hopelessness will check in as the price slips below 10. The FY results should boost the pessimism just like PAFR.


@hisah I pity you this vehicle will leave you hoping for a further drop. There will be a massive drop in profit compared to last financial year but not a loss report. On the same magnitude a large report of unrealised loss will eat Britam's revenues too. Expect a rally immediately after performance announcement.

Already bad news is factored in the current price. Don't expect a dip more than the bloodbath today!

During the rally last fatigue will be at 16.50 kes per share. It will be a rapid motion; upward stampede.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Metasploit
#444 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 6:09:49 PM
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Deeply oversold.

Dead cat bounce in the offing.

Next support levels at 8 and this is a tough one

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
Metasploit
#445 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 6:18:43 PM
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“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
Metasploit
#446 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 6:25:03 PM
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Riding the lower BB bands.ksh 10 support is being broken (This was a short one unlike the ksh 8 which was long)

But i hold the view that the counter is deeply oversold to warrant a bounce.

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
Realtreaty
#447 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 6:27:21 PM
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My candy has fallen down , i still gonna pick it and eat it!!!!!!Sad Sad .
Most likey the announced loss will be 30-45%.They may not pay any dividend and if any 10-20cents.
I still will buy it knowing one day they will move back strongly after issues with Bramer and BAI Mauritius are resolved with their 23% capacity.
The wording will be strong tomorrow when they release their FY15 figures.
The opening of Britam Tower may be pushed to April 2017.Pray Pray
Such bad news are announced at the evening to reduce headache during the day.!!!
Aguytrying
#448 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 6:39:39 PM
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@Realtreaty. Your optimism seems to have died down. Never underestimate the NSE deep sea sharks. I don't like volatile shares, this is proving to be one. It touched 4.00 in 2011/2012. It went up to 40 that's a 10 fold rise! Speculators heaven. Just don't be on the golden handcuffs purge
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Golden_Arrow
#449 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 6:40:06 PM
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Oh my... this is enough beating.
maka
#450 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 7:20:15 PM
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Golden_Arrow wrote:
Oh my... this is enough beating.


Not yet Uhuru....
possunt quia posse videntur
Pesa Nane
#451 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 8:16:41 PM
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#432 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:36:50 PM

Realtreaty wrote:
Sad Profit warning kitu gani? As a political investor I would term the profit warning as a score at Mauritian govt goal. They failed to sell or appoint a person or company to take over from D/Rawats. Now its time the Kenyan side take stock at even more cheaper rate. The Best Mauritian govt would do is to forego the Bramer case attached to monies in Britam as an investment by D/Rawat until they probe him and determine where he got his health. Politics is a two sided spear (Asseghai).
Dividends flat or 20cts.

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Spikes
#452 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 8:35:35 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
#432 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:36:50 PM

Realtreaty wrote:
Sad Profit warning kitu gani? As a political investor I would term the profit warning as a score at Mauritian govt goal. They failed to sell or appoint a person or company to take over from D/Rawats. Now its time the Kenyan side take stock at even more cheaper rate. The Best Mauritian govt would do is to forego the Bramer case attached to monies in Britam as an investment by D/Rawat until they probe him and determine where he got his health. Politics is a two sided spear (Asseghai).
Dividends flat or 20cts.



I can see internet never forgets!!!!!! Well documented. Safely archived.

This stock is founded on strong fundamentals.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
enyands
#453 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:50:02 AM
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Spikes wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
#432 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:36:50 PM

Realtreaty wrote:
Sad Profit warning kitu gani? As a political investor I would term the profit warning as a score at Mauritian govt goal. They failed to sell or appoint a person or company to take over from D/Rawats. Now its time the Kenyan side take stock at even more cheaper rate. The Best Mauritian govt would do is to forego the Bramer case attached to monies in Britam as an investment by D/Rawat until they probe him and determine where he got his health. Politics is a two sided spear (Asseghai).
Dividends flat or 20cts.



I can see internet never forgets!!!!!! Well documented. Safely archived.

This stock is founded on strong fundamentals.



Laughing out loudly
Realtreaty
#454 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:39:31 AM
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Pray Pray Pray The evil cloud is today drifting away. Go, go, go My candy. @10.85Kes.Pray Pray
hisah
#455 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:46:48 PM
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Dead cat bounce. Sub 10 is on the way. Just read the volume spread. Weak buy interest since Oct 2014.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
researchfirst
#456 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:28:18 PM
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I truly don't understand the negative sentiment toward BRIT. From a technical perspective the stock is oversold (e.g. Relative Strength Index is 11.45) and from a fundamentals perspective, it appears deeply undervalued.

Going beyond the headlines, the company's core business looked good at the half-year and future prospects (in Kenya and regionally) look promising. They are investing much more in innovation than the rest of the sector, made the right acquisitions, and are growing in the business areas and geographies that they should be. I am also bullish on the sector as a whole in East Africa.

Sure, the uncertainty surrounding Rawat's stake is still there and the profit warning is still hanging over things (at least until we get numbers on Thursday), but these negatives aren't enough to justify the huge hit the stock has taken. What am I missing?
Ericsson
#457 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:04:44 PM
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@researchfirst
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researchfirst
#458 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:20:29 PM
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@ericsson. Good point and agree this is a problem for the 2015 figures but, from a forward-looking perspective, tie up with the two must be good strategically, no? Also they said they are holding on exposure to listed stuff and diluting by increasing real estate, etc. (like Centum did, just later than they should have).

Get what you're saying, but still seems like price is artificially low. Cyntonn tweeted yesterday that foreign money flowed out ahead of FY announcement, maybe that's all it was (with earlier drops attributable to Ponzi worries, HY crap, etc.). Long term, stock still seems solid to me. I just don't know if I have the stomach for the near term volatility. (Know that's the wrong thing to say from a value perspective, but I'm only human ... and, basically, broke!) Sad
enyands
#459 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:59:43 PM
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researchfirst wrote:
@ericsson. Good point and agree this is a problem for the 2015 figures but, from a forward-looking perspective, tie up with the two must be good strategically, no? Also they said they are holding on exposure to listed stuff and diluting by increasing real estate, etc. (like Centum did, just later than they should have).

Get what you're saying, but still seems like price is artificially low. Cyntonn tweeted yesterday that foreign money flowed out ahead of FY announcement, maybe that's all it was (with earlier drops attributable to Ponzi worries, HY crap, etc.). Long term, stock still seems solid to me. I just don't know if I have the stomach for the near term volatility. (Know that's the wrong thing to say from a value perspective, but I'm only human ... and, basically, broke!) Sad



dark cloud will pass after next year august .just hang on. you are broke physically but reach inside.
researchfirst
#460 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:07:33 PM
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@enyands. Asante sana! smile
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