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slick wrote:kmucheke wrote:slick wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:kmucheke wrote:CMA raises red flag over top five firms’ dominanceQuote: The CMA has flagged the dominance of five companies — including SCOM — in the 65-stock Nairobi bourse as a big risk, with the performance of their shares dictating whether the market goes up or down on any given day.
Quote:The combined market value of SCOM, EQTY, EABL, KCB and COOP now stands at Sh1.669 trillion, compared to the total NSE market cap of Sh2.183 trillion.
SCOM alone is worth more than all the other listed firms combined, with its valuation of Sh1.181 trillion accounting for 54.1 percent of the NSE’s market capitalisation. CMA should stop bothering about the other 4 SCOM is 54%!!! The other 4 COMBINED come nowhere close. And 3 of the 4 are banks. Market dominance by a few stocks is also an issue in the US.Over 20% of the S&P 500 and 50% of the NASDAQ is dominated by just 5 stocks ie the Microsoft,Apple,Amazon,Google,Facebook  I didn't know that. This is a ticking time bomb. Do you foresee another tech bubble burst in the near future that will affect the FANMAG stocks? I didnt want to go off on a tangent since this thread is dedicated to NSE but to respond yes I agree its a ticking and another tech bubble burst is very possible?When will this burst occur is something one cannot predict as the Fed always seems to "salvage" the market via its money printing schemes.The rampant speculation in the general market and in particular these 5 tech stocks (including Netflix) is unprecedented and even more extreme than in the dotcom bubble.Currently the market is in its biggest bubble in history even bigger than the dotcom one.The NASDAQ had hit over 10,000 a few days ago which is ridiculous.Sure these tech giants are highly innovative but it doesnt justify their extreme stock valuations.Tesla is definitely the worst in the speculative frenzy. Most of the market rally since the March 2020 collapse has been fuelled by these FANMAG (FANMAG stands for Facebook,Amazon,Microsoft,Netflix,Apple,Google) stocks and NASDAQ hit its all time highs over 10,000 a few days ago due to these 6 stocks.Retail speculation coupled with money managers passive investing strategies ie investing in a broader ETF like the QQQs (QQQ is the biggest ETF for the NASDAQ) where money managers prefer to buy the broader QQQ ETF as opposed to buying individual stocks thus there is an over-concentration in these 6 stocks that the QQQ ETF almost predominantly buys.Microsoft,Amazon,Apple have already surpassed the 1 trillion USD market cap.To emphasize the mad speculation by retail investors that supersedes the dotcom madness,retail are piling into companies like Hertz that have already filed for bankruptcy which is stupid to say the least. As I said,its impossible to predict when this mad speculation will end in tears as the Fed keeps printing trillions to pump the market.During the dotcom bubble the Fed was hardly printing money so that collapse (over 80% decline of the NASDAQ in the dotcom burst)occurred but in the current environment there is almost no limits to what the Fed can do.Could the NASDAQ hit even 12,000 or even 15,000 due to Fed money printing?Sure thats possible.Could the tech frenzy collapse also.Yeah thats possible too.Lets see how this insanity plays out @slick thank you for the well detailed analysis. Lets wait and see . We are living in very unprecedented times.
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VituVingiSana wrote:kmucheke wrote:CMA raises red flag over top five firms’ dominanceQuote: The CMA has flagged the dominance of five companies — including SCOM — in the 65-stock Nairobi bourse as a big risk, with the performance of their shares dictating whether the market goes up or down on any given day.
Quote:The combined market value of SCOM, EQTY, EABL, KCB and COOP now stands at Sh1.669 trillion, compared to the total NSE market cap of Sh2.183 trillion.
SCOM alone is worth more than all the other listed firms combined, with its valuation of Sh1.181 trillion accounting for 54.1 percent of the NSE’s market capitalisation. CMA should stop bothering about the other 4 SCOM is 54%!!! The other 4 COMBINED come nowhere close. And 3 of the 4 are banks. This confirms SCOM is a dominant entity on all spheres. However success should not be punished. NSE and CMA should come up with incentives to improve the market caps of other stocks,
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slick wrote:kmucheke wrote:slick wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:kmucheke wrote:CMA raises red flag over top five firms’ dominanceQuote: The CMA has flagged the dominance of five companies — including SCOM — in the 65-stock Nairobi bourse as a big risk, with the performance of their shares dictating whether the market goes up or down on any given day.
Quote:The combined market value of SCOM, EQTY, EABL, KCB and COOP now stands at Sh1.669 trillion, compared to the total NSE market cap of Sh2.183 trillion.
SCOM alone is worth more than all the other listed firms combined, with its valuation of Sh1.181 trillion accounting for 54.1 percent of the NSE’s market capitalisation. CMA should stop bothering about the other 4 SCOM is 54%!!! The other 4 COMBINED come nowhere close. And 3 of the 4 are banks. Market dominance by a few stocks is also an issue in the US.Over 20% of the S&P 500 and 50% of the NASDAQ is dominated by just 5 stocks ie the Microsoft,Apple,Amazon,Google,Facebook  I didn't know that. This is a ticking time bomb. Do you foresee another tech bubble burst in the near future that will affect the FANMAG stocks? I didnt want to go off on a tangent since this thread is dedicated to NSE but to respond yes I agree its a ticking and another tech bubble burst is very possible?When will this burst occur is something one cannot predict as the Fed always seems to "salvage" the market via its money printing schemes.The rampant speculation in the general market and in particular these 5 tech stocks (including Netflix) is unprecedented and even more extreme than in the dotcom bubble.Currently the market is in its biggest bubble in history even bigger than the dotcom one.The NASDAQ had hit over 10,000 a few days ago which is ridiculous.Sure these tech giants are highly innovative but it doesnt justify their extreme stock valuations.Tesla is definitely the worst in the speculative frenzy. Most of the market rally since the March 2020 collapse has been fuelled by these FANMAG (FANMAG stands for Facebook,Amazon,Microsoft,Netflix,Apple,Google) stocks and NASDAQ hit its all time highs over 10,000 a few days ago due to these 6 stocks.Retail speculation coupled with money managers passive investing strategies ie investing in a broader ETF like the QQQs (QQQ is the biggest ETF for the NASDAQ) where money managers prefer to buy the broader QQQ ETF as opposed to buying individual stocks thus there is an over-concentration in these 6 stocks that the QQQ ETF almost predominantly buys.Microsoft,Amazon,Apple have already surpassed the 1 trillion USD market cap.To emphasize the mad speculation by retail investors that supersedes the dotcom madness,retail are piling into companies like Hertz that have already filed for bankruptcy which is stupid to say the least. As I said,its impossible to predict when this mad speculation will end in tears as the Fed keeps printing trillions to pump the market.During the dotcom bubble the Fed was hardly printing money so that collapse (over 80% decline of the NASDAQ in the dotcom burst)occurred but in the current environment there is almost no limits to what the Fed can do.Could the NASDAQ hit even 12,000 or even 15,000 due to Fed money printing?Sure thats possible.Could the tech frenzy collapse also.Yeah thats possible too.Lets see how this insanity plays out On the big US tech companies, I think this time its different. In the tech bubble of the 90s the companies did not revenue. Their valuation was based on the prospect of future revenues. Right now those big 6 not only have substantial revenues but have very low costs and are some of the most cash rich companies in the world. They basically built an infrastructure through which all commerce in the world flows. Imagine if some company came to Kenya and built roads connecting every city, town and village. Then they charge a small fee for people to pass. That is what these companies have done in the world. It is exactly what Safaricom has done in Kenya. They have grown so big that the only thing that can topple them is legislation. You have to give credit to the Chinese. They are the only country that saw the rise of big tech companies for what they are. They protected their market and allowed home grown solutions for each of those giant tech companies. The rest of the world is now captive. I just saw that Facebook has started money transfer on Whatsapp in Brazil. Facebook already has about 2 billion users in the world. Its user base is bigger than any country in the world. A money transfer service of WhatsApp is enough to kill local Mpesas in hundreds of countries and completely finish off Western Union and Moneygram from the face of the earth. The technology is already there for this to happen, the only thing standing in their way would be legislation. Imagine how much potential power companies like SpaceX now have. A company that has the infrastructure to launch satellites into space is not limited by boundaries. We are in a new era of Megasuperhumongous companies. I don't think the world has ever seen anything like this before.
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Kusadikika wrote: I just saw that Facebook has started money transfer on Whatsapp in Brazil. Facebook already has about 2 billion users in the world. Its user base is bigger than any country in the world. A money transfer service of WhatsApp is enough to kill local Mpesas in hundreds of countries and completely finish off Western Union and Moneygram from the face of the earth. The technology is already there for this to happen, the only thing standing in their way would be legislation. Imagine how much potential power companies like SpaceX now have. A company that has the infrastructure to launch satellites into space is not limited by boundaries. We are in a new era of Megasuperhumongous companies. I don't think the world has ever seen anything like this before.
Bob Collymore is quoted as saying: " For all the kudos Safaricom won worldwide for its mobile payments platform M-Pesa, “you can pay for things with your Fitbit now,” says Collymore.
And in the future, the real challengers to telephone companies like Safaricom will come from ‘big tech’: Amazon, Google, Facebook, as well as Chinese challengers like Tencent. WhatsApp has launched a payments trial in India involving tens of millions of participants. If WhatsApp gets into payments and comes to Kenya, what will Safaricom do? " Google's loon balloons are hovering over Kenya Airspace and have technical capacity to provide free LTE internet to everyone but for now working with Telkom-Orange. i.e in a stroke Safaricom Data revenue could suffer and since you can call via WhatsApp also voice revenues would dip. SpaceX with StarLink now have 540 satellites in orbit and is preparing beta tests for it's free?? internet. Big tech disruption is almost here but regulatory approval delays will see Safaricom star continue to shine for a while...e.g Google Loon overflying Kenyan Airspace was pending approval for a couple of years but Kenya-1 made it seem approval was COVID-19 related. I see no serious M-PESA new competitor getting regulatory approval any time soon.
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Kusadikika wrote:slick wrote:kmucheke wrote:slick wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:kmucheke wrote:CMA raises red flag over top five firms’ dominanceQuote: The CMA has flagged the dominance of five companies — including SCOM — in the 65-stock Nairobi bourse as a big risk, with the performance of their shares dictating whether the market goes up or down on any given day.
Quote:The combined market value of SCOM, EQTY, EABL, KCB and COOP now stands at Sh1.669 trillion, compared to the total NSE market cap of Sh2.183 trillion.
SCOM alone is worth more than all the other listed firms combined, with its valuation of Sh1.181 trillion accounting for 54.1 percent of the NSE’s market capitalisation. CMA should stop bothering about the other 4 SCOM is 54%!!! The other 4 COMBINED come nowhere close. And 3 of the 4 are banks. Market dominance by a few stocks is also an issue in the US.Over 20% of the S&P 500 and 50% of the NASDAQ is dominated by just 5 stocks ie the Microsoft,Apple,Amazon,Google,Facebook  I didn't know that. This is a ticking time bomb. Do you foresee another tech bubble burst in the near future that will affect the FANMAG stocks? I didnt want to go off on a tangent since this thread is dedicated to NSE but to respond yes I agree its a ticking and another tech bubble burst is very possible?When will this burst occur is something one cannot predict as the Fed always seems to "salvage" the market via its money printing schemes.The rampant speculation in the general market and in particular these 5 tech stocks (including Netflix) is unprecedented and even more extreme than in the dotcom bubble.Currently the market is in its biggest bubble in history even bigger than the dotcom one.The NASDAQ had hit over 10,000 a few days ago which is ridiculous.Sure these tech giants are highly innovative but it doesnt justify their extreme stock valuations.Tesla is definitely the worst in the speculative frenzy. Most of the market rally since the March 2020 collapse has been fuelled by these FANMAG (FANMAG stands for Facebook,Amazon,Microsoft,Netflix,Apple,Google) stocks and NASDAQ hit its all time highs over 10,000 a few days ago due to these 6 stocks.Retail speculation coupled with money managers passive investing strategies ie investing in a broader ETF like the QQQs (QQQ is the biggest ETF for the NASDAQ) where money managers prefer to buy the broader QQQ ETF as opposed to buying individual stocks thus there is an over-concentration in these 6 stocks that the QQQ ETF almost predominantly buys.Microsoft,Amazon,Apple have already surpassed the 1 trillion USD market cap.To emphasize the mad speculation by retail investors that supersedes the dotcom madness,retail are piling into companies like Hertz that have already filed for bankruptcy which is stupid to say the least. As I said,its impossible to predict when this mad speculation will end in tears as the Fed keeps printing trillions to pump the market.During the dotcom bubble the Fed was hardly printing money so that collapse (over 80% decline of the NASDAQ in the dotcom burst)occurred but in the current environment there is almost no limits to what the Fed can do.Could the NASDAQ hit even 12,000 or even 15,000 due to Fed money printing?Sure thats possible.Could the tech frenzy collapse also.Yeah thats possible too.Lets see how this insanity plays out On the big US tech companies, I think this time its different. In the tech bubble of the 90s the companies did not revenue. Their valuation was based on the prospect of future revenues. Right now those big 6 not only have substantial revenues but have very low costs and are some of the most cash rich companies in the world. They basically built an infrastructure through which all commerce in the world flows. Imagine if some company came to Kenya and built roads connecting every city, town and village. Then they charge a small fee for people to pass. That is what these companies have done in the world. It is exactly what Safaricom has done in Kenya. They have grown so big that the only thing that can topple them is legislation. You have to give credit to the Chinese. They are the only country that saw the rise of big tech companies for what they are. They protected their market and allowed home grown solutions for each of those giant tech companies. The rest of the world is now captive. I just saw that Facebook has started money transfer on Whatsapp in Brazil. Facebook already has about 2 billion users in the world. Its user base is bigger than any country in the world. A money transfer service of WhatsApp is enough to kill local Mpesas in hundreds of countries and completely finish off Western Union and Moneygram from the face of the earth. The technology is already there for this to happen, the only thing standing in their way would be legislation. Imagine how much potential power companies like SpaceX now have. A company that has the infrastructure to launch satellites into space is not limited by boundaries. We are in a new era of Megasuperhumongous companies. I don't think the world has ever seen anything like this before. In some cases this tech bubble is different and in other cases its the same.Sure these mega tech stocks have highly innovative as I said earlier and large revenues unlike many dotcom companies which were just unicorns with no business plan and no revenues and were just playing the internet bubble that promised a paradigm shift in business operations and life in general.There are still useless tech unicorns that exist but not to the ludicrous numbers like in the late 1990s and early 2000s.Still companies like Microsoft,Amazon,Oracle.IBM etc despite being innovative during the dotcom era had their stocks being grossly overvalued during that era and their stocks basically collapsed with the rest of the dotcom bubble burst.Thus despite the current mega caps being highly revolutionary,their stock valuations are still massively overvalued.Some like Netflix and Tesla have little and even at times negative Free Cash Flow so their stock valuations are utterly ridiculous  Also unlike in the dotcom bubble era where the Fed was hardly printing money,the current Fed multi-trillion printing bonanza may result in the tech stocks not declining massively as the US central bank has repeatedly shown its ability to reflate bubbles. 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kawi254 wrote:Kusadikika wrote: I just saw that Facebook has started money transfer on Whatsapp in Brazil. Facebook already has about 2 billion users in the world. Its user base is bigger than any country in the world. A money transfer service of WhatsApp is enough to kill local Mpesas in hundreds of countries and completely finish off Western Union and Moneygram from the face of the earth. The technology is already there for this to happen, the only thing standing in their way would be legislation. Imagine how much potential power companies like SpaceX now have. A company that has the infrastructure to launch satellites into space is not limited by boundaries. We are in a new era of Megasuperhumongous companies. I don't think the world has ever seen anything like this before.
Bob Collymore is quoted as saying: " For all the kudos Safaricom won worldwide for its mobile payments platform M-Pesa, “you can pay for things with your Fitbit now,” says Collymore.
And in the future, the real challengers to telephone companies like Safaricom will come from ‘big tech’: Amazon, Google, Facebook, as well as Chinese challengers like Tencent. WhatsApp has launched a payments trial in India involving tens of millions of participants. If WhatsApp gets into payments and comes to Kenya, what will Safaricom do? " Google's loon balloons are hovering over Kenya Airspace and have technical capacity to provide free LTE internet to everyone but for now working with Telkom-Orange. i.e in a stroke Safaricom Data revenue could suffer and since you can call via WhatsApp also voice revenues would dip. SpaceX with StarLink now have 540 satellites in orbit and is preparing beta tests for it's free?? internet. Big tech disruption is almost here but regulatory approval delays will see Safaricom star continue to shine for a while...e.g Google Loon overflying Kenyan Airspace was pending approval for a couple of years but Kenya-1 made it seem approval was COVID-19 related. I see no serious M-PESA new competitor getting regulatory approval any time soon. Very interesting interview, but the part that gets me most is what he says about his successor- “[We need] someone who understands the financial sector a lot more, if we are to occupy the fintech space, and someone who is not going to be scared of going into other markets.” According to the late Collymore his successor should deepen and widen the fintech offering and take SCOM to other markets (ETH comes to mind). The latter part is akin to how the Nigerian market contributes to significant revenues for MTN Group South Africa and Multichoice South Africa.
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kmucheke wrote:kawi254 wrote:Kusadikika wrote: I just saw that Facebook has started money transfer on Whatsapp in Brazil. Facebook already has about 2 billion users in the world. Its user base is bigger than any country in the world. A money transfer service of WhatsApp is enough to kill local Mpesas in hundreds of countries and completely finish off Western Union and Moneygram from the face of the earth. The technology is already there for this to happen, the only thing standing in their way would be legislation. Imagine how much potential power companies like SpaceX now have. A company that has the infrastructure to launch satellites into space is not limited by boundaries. We are in a new era of Megasuperhumongous companies. I don't think the world has ever seen anything like this before.
Bob Collymore is quoted as saying: " For all the kudos Safaricom won worldwide for its mobile payments platform M-Pesa, “you can pay for things with your Fitbit now,” says Collymore.
And in the future, the real challengers to telephone companies like Safaricom will come from ‘big tech’: Amazon, Google, Facebook, as well as Chinese challengers like Tencent. WhatsApp has launched a payments trial in India involving tens of millions of participants. If WhatsApp gets into payments and comes to Kenya, what will Safaricom do? " Google's loon balloons are hovering over Kenya Airspace and have technical capacity to provide free LTE internet to everyone but for now working with Telkom-Orange. i.e in a stroke Safaricom Data revenue could suffer and since you can call via WhatsApp also voice revenues would dip. SpaceX with StarLink now have 540 satellites in orbit and is preparing beta tests for it's free?? internet. Big tech disruption is almost here but regulatory approval delays will see Safaricom star continue to shine for a while...e.g Google Loon overflying Kenyan Airspace was pending approval for a couple of years but Kenya-1 made it seem approval was COVID-19 related. I see no serious M-PESA new competitor getting regulatory approval any time soon. Very interesting interview, but the part that gets me most is what he says about his successor- “[We need] someone who understands the financial sector a lot more, if we are to occupy the fintech space, and someone who is not going to be scared of going into other markets.” According to the late Collymore his successor should deepen and widen the fintech offering and take SCOM to other markets (ETH comes to mind). The latter part is akin to how the Nigerian market contributes to significant revenues for MTN Group South Africa and Multichoice South Africa. If they get the nod to go to Ethiopia it shall also a significant chunk of revenue.In Ethiopia they will go via JV Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Kusadikika wrote:slick wrote:kmucheke wrote:slick wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:kmucheke wrote:CMA raises red flag over top five firms’ dominanceQuote: The CMA has flagged the dominance of five companies — including SCOM — in the 65-stock Nairobi bourse as a big risk, with the performance of their shares dictating whether the market goes up or down on any given day.
Quote:The combined market value of SCOM, EQTY, EABL, KCB and COOP now stands at Sh1.669 trillion, compared to the total NSE market cap of Sh2.183 trillion.
SCOM alone is worth more than all the other listed firms combined, with its valuation of Sh1.181 trillion accounting for 54.1 percent of the NSE’s market capitalisation. CMA should stop bothering about the other 4 SCOM is 54%!!! The other 4 COMBINED come nowhere close. And 3 of the 4 are banks. Market dominance by a few stocks is also an issue in the US.Over 20% of the S&P 500 and 50% of the NASDAQ is dominated by just 5 stocks ie the Microsoft,Apple,Amazon,Google,Facebook  I didn't know that. This is a ticking time bomb. Do you foresee another tech bubble burst in the near future that will affect the FANMAG stocks? I didnt want to go off on a tangent since this thread is dedicated to NSE but to respond yes I agree its a ticking and another tech bubble burst is very possible?When will this burst occur is something one cannot predict as the Fed always seems to "salvage" the market via its money printing schemes.The rampant speculation in the general market and in particular these 5 tech stocks (including Netflix) is unprecedented and even more extreme than in the dotcom bubble.Currently the market is in its biggest bubble in history even bigger than the dotcom one.The NASDAQ had hit over 10,000 a few days ago which is ridiculous.Sure these tech giants are highly innovative but it doesnt justify their extreme stock valuations.Tesla is definitely the worst in the speculative frenzy. Most of the market rally since the March 2020 collapse has been fuelled by these FANMAG (FANMAG stands for Facebook,Amazon,Microsoft,Netflix,Apple,Google) stocks and NASDAQ hit its all time highs over 10,000 a few days ago due to these 6 stocks.Retail speculation coupled with money managers passive investing strategies ie investing in a broader ETF like the QQQs (QQQ is the biggest ETF for the NASDAQ) where money managers prefer to buy the broader QQQ ETF as opposed to buying individual stocks thus there is an over-concentration in these 6 stocks that the QQQ ETF almost predominantly buys.Microsoft,Amazon,Apple have already surpassed the 1 trillion USD market cap.To emphasize the mad speculation by retail investors that supersedes the dotcom madness,retail are piling into companies like Hertz that have already filed for bankruptcy which is stupid to say the least. As I said,its impossible to predict when this mad speculation will end in tears as the Fed keeps printing trillions to pump the market.During the dotcom bubble the Fed was hardly printing money so that collapse (over 80% decline of the NASDAQ in the dotcom burst)occurred but in the current environment there is almost no limits to what the Fed can do.Could the NASDAQ hit even 12,000 or even 15,000 due to Fed money printing?Sure thats possible.Could the tech frenzy collapse also.Yeah thats possible too.Lets see how this insanity plays out On the big US tech companies, I think this time its different. In the tech bubble of the 90s the companies did not revenue. Their valuation was based on the prospect of future revenues. Right now those big 6 not only have substantial revenues but have very low costs and are some of the most cash rich companies in the world. They basically built an infrastructure through which all commerce in the world flows. Imagine if some company came to Kenya and built roads connecting every city, town and village. Then they charge a small fee for people to pass. That is what these companies have done in the world. It is exactly what Safaricom has done in Kenya. They have grown so big that the only thing that can topple them is legislation. You have to give credit to the Chinese. They are the only country that saw the rise of big tech companies for what they are. They protected their market and allowed home grown solutions for each of those giant tech companies. The rest of the world is now captive. I just saw that Facebook has started money transfer on Whatsapp in Brazil. Facebook already has about 2 billion users in the world. Its user base is bigger than any country in the world. A money transfer service of WhatsApp is enough to kill local Mpesas in hundreds of countries and completely finish off Western Union and Moneygram from the face of the earth. The technology is already there for this to happen, the only thing standing in their way would be legislation. Imagine how much potential power companies like SpaceX now have. A company that has the infrastructure to launch satellites into space is not limited by boundaries. We are in a new era of Megasuperhumongous companies. I don't think the world has ever seen anything like this before. The Chinese stole/copied what they could. In a sense it's not fair but the "West" has also benefitted from Chinese (Indian, Asian )IP in past centuries from paper to medicines. Can the Chinese products/services expand outside of China? There's a benefit in numbers too and Kenyans can benefit from FB, etc to sell/market to the "West" as well. More so, these platforms can help INTRA-AFRICA trade. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Ericsson wrote:kmucheke wrote:kawi254 wrote:Kusadikika wrote: I just saw that Facebook has started money transfer on Whatsapp in Brazil. Facebook already has about 2 billion users in the world. Its user base is bigger than any country in the world. A money transfer service of WhatsApp is enough to kill local Mpesas in hundreds of countries and completely finish off Western Union and Moneygram from the face of the earth. The technology is already there for this to happen, the only thing standing in their way would be legislation. Imagine how much potential power companies like SpaceX now have. A company that has the infrastructure to launch satellites into space is not limited by boundaries. We are in a new era of Megasuperhumongous companies. I don't think the world has ever seen anything like this before.
Bob Collymore is quoted as saying: " For all the kudos Safaricom won worldwide for its mobile payments platform M-Pesa, “you can pay for things with your Fitbit now,” says Collymore.
And in the future, the real challengers to telephone companies like Safaricom will come from ‘big tech’: Amazon, Google, Facebook, as well as Chinese challengers like Tencent. WhatsApp has launched a payments trial in India involving tens of millions of participants. If WhatsApp gets into payments and comes to Kenya, what will Safaricom do? " Google's loon balloons are hovering over Kenya Airspace and have technical capacity to provide free LTE internet to everyone but for now working with Telkom-Orange. i.e in a stroke Safaricom Data revenue could suffer and since you can call via WhatsApp also voice revenues would dip. SpaceX with StarLink now have 540 satellites in orbit and is preparing beta tests for it's free?? internet. Big tech disruption is almost here but regulatory approval delays will see Safaricom star continue to shine for a while...e.g Google Loon overflying Kenyan Airspace was pending approval for a couple of years but Kenya-1 made it seem approval was COVID-19 related. I see no serious M-PESA new competitor getting regulatory approval any time soon. Very interesting interview, but the part that gets me most is what he says about his successor- “[We need] someone who understands the financial sector a lot more, if we are to occupy the fintech space, and someone who is not going to be scared of going into other markets.” According to the late Collymore his successor should deepen and widen the fintech offering and take SCOM to other markets (ETH comes to mind). The latter part is akin to how the Nigerian market contributes to significant revenues for MTN Group South Africa and Multichoice South Africa. If they get the nod to go to Ethiopia it shall also a significant chunk of revenue.In Ethiopia they will go via JV Significant revenue indeed. Ethiopia is a country with an estimated population of over 100M+ and ranks amongst the fastest growing economies. What i'm not sure is their political and economical ideology.
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kmucheke wrote:Ericsson wrote:kmucheke wrote:kawi254 wrote:Kusadikika wrote: I just saw that Facebook has started money transfer on Whatsapp in Brazil. Facebook already has about 2 billion users in the world. Its user base is bigger than any country in the world. A money transfer service of WhatsApp is enough to kill local Mpesas in hundreds of countries and completely finish off Western Union and Moneygram from the face of the earth. The technology is already there for this to happen, the only thing standing in their way would be legislation. Imagine how much potential power companies like SpaceX now have. A company that has the infrastructure to launch satellites into space is not limited by boundaries. We are in a new era of Megasuperhumongous companies. I don't think the world has ever seen anything like this before.
Bob Collymore is quoted as saying: " For all the kudos Safaricom won worldwide for its mobile payments platform M-Pesa, “you can pay for things with your Fitbit now,” says Collymore.
And in the future, the real challengers to telephone companies like Safaricom will come from ‘big tech’: Amazon, Google, Facebook, as well as Chinese challengers like Tencent. WhatsApp has launched a payments trial in India involving tens of millions of participants. If WhatsApp gets into payments and comes to Kenya, what will Safaricom do? " Google's loon balloons are hovering over Kenya Airspace and have technical capacity to provide free LTE internet to everyone but for now working with Telkom-Orange. i.e in a stroke Safaricom Data revenue could suffer and since you can call via WhatsApp also voice revenues would dip. SpaceX with StarLink now have 540 satellites in orbit and is preparing beta tests for it's free?? internet. Big tech disruption is almost here but regulatory approval delays will see Safaricom star continue to shine for a while...e.g Google Loon overflying Kenyan Airspace was pending approval for a couple of years but Kenya-1 made it seem approval was COVID-19 related. I see no serious M-PESA new competitor getting regulatory approval any time soon. Very interesting interview, but the part that gets me most is what he says about his successor- “[We need] someone who understands the financial sector a lot more, if we are to occupy the fintech space, and someone who is not going to be scared of going into other markets.” According to the late Collymore his successor should deepen and widen the fintech offering and take SCOM to other markets (ETH comes to mind). The latter part is akin to how the Nigerian market contributes to significant revenues for MTN Group South Africa and Multichoice South Africa. If they get the nod to go to Ethiopia it shall also a significant chunk of revenue.In Ethiopia they will go via JV Significant revenue indeed. Ethiopia is a country with an estimated population of over 100M+ and ranks amongst the fastest growing economies. What i'm not sure is their political and economical ideology. A big population living in poverty doesn't help a company looking to grow revenues If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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