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Gatheuzi
#2191 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 6:44:15 AM
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Siringi wrote:
on a light none literallysmile


Na huyu Siringi ajua kuangalia smile

obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:

Maybe.. Just Maybe poor performance has something with hii shida KQ Vs Emirates

Main difference is that while KQ is full of dudes, Emirates only has dudettes..

That is a valid observation. Men go to Africa Alliance brokers just to 'transact' coz of the personnel


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enyands
#2192 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 9:36:28 AM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:
on a light none literallysmile


Na huyu Siringi ajua kuangalia smile

obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:

Maybe.. Just Maybe poor performance has something with hii shida KQ Vs Emirates

Main difference is that while KQ is full of dudes, Emirates only has dudettes..

That is a valid observation. Men go to Africa Alliance brokers just to 'transact' coz of the personnel




We should take pride of our people not ridiculing them.
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HaMaina
#2193 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 10:33:00 AM
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Joined: 4/23/2014
Posts: 932
enyands wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:
on a light none literallysmile


Na huyu Siringi ajua kuangalia smile

obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:

Maybe.. Just Maybe poor performance has something with hii shida KQ Vs Emirates

Main difference is that while KQ is full of dudes, Emirates only has dudettes..

That is a valid observation. Men go to Africa Alliance brokers just to 'transact' coz of the personnel




We should take pride of our people not ridiculing them.


I think they are doing a fairly good job of that themselves.
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VituVingiSana
#2194 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 12:26:49 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,371
Location: Nairobi
enyands wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:
on a light none literallysmile


Na huyu Siringi ajua kuangalia smile

obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:

Maybe.. Just Maybe poor performance has something with hii shida KQ Vs Emirates

Main difference is that while KQ is full of dudes, Emirates only has dudettes..

That is a valid observation. Men go to Africa Alliance brokers just to 'transact' coz of the personnel




We should take pride of our people not ridiculing them.

I was born a male Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I have flown Ethiopian (& Emirates) and the stewardesses on ET & EK are (IMHO) more attractive. Sue me.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Impunity
#2195 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 6:01:03 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
enyands wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:
on a light none literallysmile


Na huyu Siringi ajua kuangalia smile

obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:

Maybe.. Just Maybe poor performance has something with hii shida KQ Vs Emirates

Main difference is that while KQ is full of dudes, Emirates only has dudettes..

That is a valid observation. Men go to Africa Alliance brokers just to 'transact' coz of the personnel




We should take pride of our people not ridiculing them.


Our people must first dress well and come out presentable before we can take pride in them.
Portfolio: Sold
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harrydre
#2196 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 7:22:32 PM
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Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
watching this stock closely...rose by 25 cents today.
i.am.back!!!!
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obiero
#2197 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 9:00:02 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,318
Location: nairobi
harrydre wrote:
watching this stock closely...rose by 25 cents today.

Watch it very closely @harrydre.. Something must give.. The exchange bar gentleman opine that @mbuvingunze decided to pack in all 'historical' losses into the full year results so as to move with reduced baggage. With sale of the obsolete craft, Embakasi land, coupled with weaning of unprofitable international routes via reduced frequency, increased local travel via Jambojet, oil savings via newer efficient planes; a profit for H1 is assured. Thank me later
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enyands
#2198 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:07:06 AM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
VituVingiSana wrote:
enyands wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:
on a light none literallysmile


Na huyu Siringi ajua kuangalia smile

obiero wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Siringi wrote:

Maybe.. Just Maybe poor performance has something with hii shida KQ Vs Emirates

Main difference is that while KQ is full of dudes, Emirates only has dudettes..

That is a valid observation. Men go to Africa Alliance brokers just to 'transact' coz of the personnel




We should take pride of our people not ridiculing them.

I was born a male Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I have flown Ethiopian (& Emirates) and the stewardesses on ET & EK are (IMHO) more attractive. Sue me.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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VituVingiSana
#2199 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:27:42 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,371
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
harrydre wrote:
watching this stock closely...rose by 25 cents today.

Watch it very closely @harrydre.. Something must give.. The exchange bar gentleman opine that @mbuvingunze decided to pack in all 'historical' losses into the full year results so as to move with reduced baggage. With sale of the obsolete craft, Embakasi land, coupled with weaning of unprofitable international routes via reduced frequency, increased local travel via Jambojet, oil savings via newer efficient planes; a profit for H1 is assured. Thank me later

Facts:
1) The old aircraft have not been sold. So they continue 'depreciating' in value as they wait to be sold.
2) The debts are not going anywhere. They need to be serviced.
3) Has the land been sold? What value is the land being carried at in the books?
4) Lower fuel prices. Good news for Emirates that doesn't hedge.

In the meantime, my KK released 1H results...

1) Not selling assets (excluding normal PPE disposals) anymore Applause [Stations acquired in Rwanda and Burundi are being rehabbed]
2) Debts reduced Applause [Gearing Ratio down to 50% despite selling 8% more volume] as have interest costs Applause Applause [down 43%]
3) Lower fuel prices means higher GPM (no hedging) in 2H Applause Applause Applause
4) Did I mention that KK could hit 3bn PBT for 2015? Applause Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Thiong'o
#2200 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:04:57 AM
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Joined: 10/14/2011
Posts: 661
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
harrydre wrote:
watching this stock closely...rose by 25 cents today.

Watch it very closely @harrydre.. Something must give.. The exchange bar gentleman opine that @mbuvingunze decided to pack in all 'historical' losses into the full year results so as to move with reduced baggage. With sale of the obsolete craft, Embakasi land, coupled with weaning of unprofitable international routes via reduced frequency, increased local travel via Jambojet, oil savings via newer efficient planes; a profit for H1 is assured. Thank me later

Facts:
1) The old aircraft have not been sold. So they continue 'depreciating' in value as they wait to be sold.
Depreciated has to be provided and unless there is real obsolescence the values are carrying book values, depreciation is to ensure prudence in reporting and management is not bound to sell the aircraft at depreciated values if going market rates are higher. The sale if actualized will generate the much needed cash flow -it may be at a gain compared to the already depreciated/book values
2) The debts are not going anywhere. They need to be serviced. True, but cash flows from the disposals if actualized can help

3) Has the land been sold? What value is the land being carried at in the books?? I suppose Fair value has been used since land is meant for sale otherwise historical cost.

4) Lower fuel prices. Good news for Emirates that doesn't hedge.. What’s was the duration for the hedges, the hedge positions are periodically reviewed (may have reduced), this according to a past CEO’s TV interview (citizen)

In the meantime, my KK released 1H results...

1) Not selling assets (excluding normal PPE disposals) anymore Applause [Stations acquired in Rwanda and Burundi are being rehabbed]
2) Debts reduced Applause [Gearing Ratio down to 50% despite selling 8% more volume] as have interest costs Applause Applause [down 43%]
3) Lower fuel prices means higher GPM (no hedging) in 2H Applause Applause Applause
4) Did I mention that KK could hit 3bn PBT for 2015? Applause Applause Applause Applause

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