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Madness at the NSE
wukan
#2191 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 8:16:48 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Let the markets figure it out instead of short-term interventions.

It's like having a (regular) flu and making the symptoms with antihistamines and decongestants. The symptoms worsen after the meds wear off.


Fed action is more aimed at their treasury market. Their credit market is what is messed up and it's tanking the risky assets like equities. Once Fed resolves the dollar liquidity issue then risky assets come back to life. Next 8 weeks are crucial. Best way to check is through the dollar index.
wukan
#2192 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:15:04 PM
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NSE 20 share closed at 1887.17

NSE ALL Share closed 124.54

Madness!!!
Queen
#2193 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2020 6:24:30 PM
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wukan wrote:
NSE 20 share closed at 1887.17

NSE ALL Share closed 124.54

Madness!!!


The true definition of blood in the street.
cyruskulei
#2194 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:20:47 PM
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Queen wrote:
wukan wrote:
NSE 20 share closed at 1887.17

NSE ALL Share closed 124.54

Madness!!!


The true definition of blood in the street.




Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

lochaz-index
#2195 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 7:36:11 AM
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Solid returns for equities internationally haven't yet translated to a relief rally on the NSE rally but the bear action is has been highly contagious. The market should take a pause at current levels though the KES slide is worrying and likely to take center stage if it blows past its all time lows.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
murchr
#2196 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:43:22 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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slick
#2197 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:51:06 PM
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For all those in tears over their losses at the NSE,take comfort that the world's greatest investor ie Warren Buffet aka Oracle of Omaha,portfolio is also taking a massive beating as below



Though Buffet wasnt all in and had his biggest cash hoard position in his history ie over 120 billion so as to pick bargains when markets crash.Of course Buffet wont go hungry due to the losses in his portfolio but it shows most of us are in the same boat in this market decline
Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
VituVingiSana
#2198 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 1:08:57 AM
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slick wrote:
For all those in tears over their losses at the NSE,take comfort that the world's greatest investor ie Warren Buffet aka Oracle of Omaha,portfolio is also taking a massive beating as below



Though Buffet wasnt all in and had his biggest cash hoard position in his history ie over 120 billion so as to pick bargains when markets crash.Of course Buffet wont go hungry due to the losses in his portfolio but it shows most of us are in the same boat in this market decline
Do note that the unlisted portfolio is also huge. It has also taken an earnings hit under COVID19 but the firms might come out stronger than the competition once we get over the current crisis.
The $120bn is HUGE in this time. And he can borrow even more at 0-1% given the strength and ratings of BH.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
NewMoney
#2199 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:46:59 AM
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I never understand why people panic sell, it seems pretty myopic..

Any investor who has properly diversified investment in the stocks plus a sizeable emergency fund in the money markets/fixed deposits/savings account should never worry about temporary market dips since history has shown that markets always recover, always.

Even with the case of exceptions such as the NIKKEI market which has not recovered since the 80s, any savvy investor over there will have reaped benefits through dividends and averaging down their ABP over time.

I don't get it what people think when locking down losses during this time, but it creates a great opportunity for people like me to average down even further. 99% chance the market will recover, worst-case scenario, the world as we know it will end and in that case nothing will matter.

Someone enlighten me, if am wrong.
slick
#2200 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:49:07 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
slick wrote:
For all those in tears over their losses at the NSE,take comfort that the world's greatest investor ie Warren Buffet aka Oracle of Omaha,portfolio is also taking a massive beating as below



Though Buffet wasnt all in and had his biggest cash hoard position in his history ie over 120 billion so as to pick bargains when markets crash.Of course Buffet wont go hungry due to the losses in his portfolio but it shows most of us are in the same boat in this market decline
Do note that the unlisted portfolio is also huge. It has also taken an earnings hit under COVID19 but the firms might come out stronger than the competition once we get over the current crisis.
The $120bn is HUGE in this time. And he can borrow even more at 0-1% given the strength and ratings of BH.


But Buffet is very sly.He bought up these airline stocks that have been decimated in recent weeks so cheaply knowing that they will be bailed out.These Airlines like Delta airlines,that wasted 96% of their free cash flow and proceeds from borrowing cheaply in the corporate bond market on stock buybacks to pump up their stock and have executives who bought stock for themselves cheap before the stock buybacks to enable them cash out at massive profits to themselves from dubiously inflated stock prices are now begging for a bailout and true to form the Fed and US government will bail them out.At least this time,the bailout strings attached are that companies that get bailed out do not engage in stock buybacks and executives giving themselves fat bonuses.We shall see if those caveats will be adhered to.One should not forget that in the housing bubble the Wall Street banks that cause the housing crash GFC got bailed out by the Fed and government and the bank executives used the bailout money to pay themselves ludicrously large bonuses.





It is this irony that Delta Airlines corporate bonds were downgraded to junk yet stock had its biggest gain in 12 years in Tuesday's trading because of the bailout and Buffet will benefit from the bailout money as he did in the 2008 bailouts at taxpayers expense.Buffet will recover from all the unrealized losses he has made and make even more billions from the multi-trillion bailout packages at taxpayers expense.






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