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#211 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:57:07 PM
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The big seller is still in the market...interesting trade today.
mwekez@ji
#212 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:23:39 PM
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the deal wrote:
The big seller is still in the market...interesting trade today.


... especially the last trading hour ... deals at 8.50

mlennyma
#213 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:21:03 AM
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This is a sweet quick play exit 11
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
hisah
#214 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:32:14 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
This is a sweet quick play exit 11

I hope you have put a stop loss level in case your trade goes under water. Caution. Chart pattern still bearish. Scope of testing 7.95 and lower is still high.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#215 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:00:03 AM
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@mweke. in retrospect that nock story holds more water now. kk is now all of a sudden a gava darling. but its still unlikely coz of the pan African nature of kk business that part doesn't make sense to me.
bottom line, the new management is ready to play ball
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#216 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:05:18 AM
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hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This is a sweet quick play exit 11

I hope you have put a stop loss level in case your trade goes under water. Caution. Chart pattern still bearish. Scope of testing 7.95 and lower is still high.


@hisah. Wouldn't you say that no one wants to buy kk now. not the extreme no interest level but in a while we should be there. esp depending on H1 performance, then it may be time to strike or in my case, continuing to strike.
though Its a risky share now
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mwekez@ji
#217 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:11:34 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@mweke. in retrospect that nock story holds more water now. kk is now all of a sudden a gava darling. but its still unlikely coz of the pan African nature of kk business that part doesn't make sense to me.
bottom line, the new management is ready to play ball


@Aguy, I gather that NOCK is looking at buying some of the "idle assets" of KK. It’s like NOCK is cannibalising KK but i think and trust Ohana will play his game well. I like the way he is dealing with industry players.
hisah
#218 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:56:56 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This is a sweet quick play exit 11

I hope you have put a stop loss level in case your trade goes under water. Caution. Chart pattern still bearish. Scope of testing 7.95 and lower is still high.


@hisah. Wouldn't you say that no one wants to buy kk now. not the extreme no interest level but in a while we should be there. esp depending on H1 performance, then it may be time to strike or in my case, continuing to strike.
though Its a risky share now

Extreme bear levels not yet, but getting there and that dip will be sharp as capitulation strikes. Also waiting to see the brown shoot on that H1 report. Btw the volume spike in April was the largest in the last 5yrs and has broken down 9 support in the process. Don't fight the trend.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
VituVingiSana
#219 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:47:11 PM
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1H expected to be breakeven PAT [positive EBIDTA] but 2H profitable on lower borrowing costs. And 2014 will be time to sell the firm or look for a strategic investor.

@hisah I am a buyer and on fundamentals. And thankfully managed to acquire small lots when I can. I will miss Segman but he has laid the groundwork for the future that Ohana is building on.

1) Property/Asset sales of $40mn in 2013/14 expected according to the Management [see Annual Report & discussions at the AGM] and proceeds to lower debt.
2) No more dividends until the debt is significantly reduced.
3) Dumping unprofitable (low profit) lines of business including aviation, fuel oil & bitumen unless payments are assured or in cash.
4) Re-focus on lines of business without price controls.

If Ohana can't show progress in 9 months i.e. release of 2H 2013 results as well as a positive update on 1Q 2014 operations then time to say bye-bye.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#220 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:01:09 PM
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KPC vs. KK?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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