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Law Capping interest rates
Angelica _ann
#2091 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2017 10:59:20 AM
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obiero wrote:


Citi is a foreign bank who are known to claim doom for Africa economies which are doing well like ours. Generally the economy is growing, most like lamenting instead of taking opportunies that exist and make money. I listened to DPORK on Sunday and the figures he was quoting are great and all positive. Where is the gloom and doom. The sky is falling brigade, chill out. It is only going to get better.
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Musimo
#2092 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2017 11:21:47 AM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
We are now getting to see who was swimming nakedsmile smile

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Nakumatt,” the retail chain says, even as it blames new laws capping interest rates for its recent troubles.
Nakumatt says the laws, passed in August last year, have made it difficult to access the short- to medium-term credit it relied on to run the business.

Kenya's economy is dying a quick and painful death


Nope, this guys siphoned money meant for operations at Nakumatt Sad Sad Sad

Most companies are reporting reductions in staff count, others closing shop.. It's not only Nakumatt. Nikubaya


No need to blame the rate caps, just change banks and go to Co-op, who increased loan book despite the rate cap.Otherwise go the deacons way, get the amounts required at figures close to the previous rates. With time we will know whether rate caps led to downfall of the company, or whether the company was run into the ground like chase bank was.
obiero
#2093 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2017 2:15:35 PM
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Musimo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
We are now getting to see who was swimming nakedsmile smile

Quote:
Nakumatt,” the retail chain says, even as it blames new laws capping interest rates for its recent troubles.
Nakumatt says the laws, passed in August last year, have made it difficult to access the short- to medium-term credit it relied on to run the business.

Kenya's economy is dying a quick and painful death


Nope, this guys siphoned money meant for operations at Nakumatt Sad Sad Sad

Most companies are reporting reductions in staff count, others closing shop.. It's not only Nakumatt. Nikubaya


No need to blame the rate caps, just change banks and go to Co-op, who increased loan book despite the rate cap.Otherwise go the deacons way, get the amounts required at figures close to the previous rates. With time we will know whether rate caps led to downfall of the company, or whether the company was run into the ground like chase bank was.

Wewe uko na mchezo. Ona Uchumi in the same boat. Two months salary arrears http://www.businessdaily...99358-1iiox0z/index.html

muandiwambeu
#2094 Posted : Tuesday, July 04, 2017 2:31:12 PM
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obiero wrote:
Musimo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=wukan]We are now getting to see who was swimming nakedsmile smile

Quote:
Nakumatt,” the retail chain says, even as it blames new laws capping interest rates for its recent troubles.
Nakumatt says the laws, passed in August last year, have made it difficult to access the short- to medium-term credit it relied on to run the business.

Kenya's economy is dying a quick and painful death


Nope, this guys siphoned money meant for operations at Nakumatt Sad Sad Sad

Most companies are reporting reductions in staff count, others closing shop.. It's not only Nakumatt. Nikubaya


No need to blame the rate caps, just change banks and go to Co-op, who increased loan book despite the rate cap.Otherwise go the deacons way, get the amounts required at figures close to the previous rates. With time we will know whether rate caps led to downfall of the company, or whether the company was run into the ground like chase bank was.

Wewe uko na mchezo. Ona Uchumi in the same boat. Two months salary arrears http://www.businessdaily...9358-1iiox0z/index.html[/quote]
Weeding out the rout. Effective and efficiency is a must to survival. Week one's adopt to change or else support the effective one's.
Nah. Uchumi has been on icu for so long. We have seen improvements to find them in HDU from icu. Keep fighting dea uchumi. We will miss u big if u leave us.
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winston
#2095 Posted : Wednesday, July 05, 2017 3:48:08 PM
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Probably we need to de-politicize the way we dress our 'facts'.
Are companies closing down? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are branches being shut? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are staff being retrenched? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has the GDP Shrunk? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has Inflation increased? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are workers on strike because of salary related issues? Yes. Is it political? No.

Maybe am wrong...but it doesnt look like a picture of any economy that is not bleeding.
iris
#2096 Posted : Wednesday, July 05, 2017 3:56:13 PM
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winston wrote:
Probably we need to de-politicize the way we dress our 'facts'.
Are companies closing down? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are branches being shut? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are staff being retrenched? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has the GDP Shrunk? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has Inflation increased? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are workers on strike because of salary related issues? Yes. Is it political? No.

Maybe am wrong...but it doesnt look like a picture of any economy that is not bleeding.


Is corruption and impunity part of the equation? Yes
Is it political? Yes

Can one entirely "de-politicize" what is political?
murchr
#2097 Posted : Wednesday, July 05, 2017 4:52:15 PM
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winston wrote:
Probably we need to de-politicize the way we dress our 'facts'.
Are companies closing down? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are branches being shut? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are staff being retrenched? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has the GDP Shrunk? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has Inflation increased? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are workers on strike because of salary related issues? Yes. Is it political? No.

Maybe am wrong...but it doesnt look like a picture of any economy that is not bleeding.


The GDP of Kenya in 2013 was $55.3Bn and it grew to $62.7Bn in 2015
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maka
#2098 Posted : Wednesday, July 05, 2017 6:27:02 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
winston wrote:
Government is playing the see no evil, hear no evil card on this rate capping monster. Bleed as the economy may; credit squeeze as the banks may - nothing is moving Government on this in the short term.

As soon as the elections are behind us, the obvious, long overdue corrective action will be taken.
In the meantime, the economy may as well bleed all it wants, as in 'their' books, politics takes priority.


The change is the one that will kill the economy...defaults will be the order of the day the economy will crumble.
possunt quia posse videntur
winston
#2099 Posted : Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:22:01 AM
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iris wrote:
winston wrote:
Probably we need to de-politicize the way we dress our 'facts'.
Are companies closing down? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are branches being shut? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are staff being retrenched? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has the GDP Shrunk? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has Inflation increased? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are workers on strike because of salary related issues? Yes. Is it political? No.

Maybe am wrong...but it doesnt look like a picture of any economy that is not bleeding.


Is corruption and impunity part of the equation? Yes
Is it political? Yes

Can one entirely "de-politicize" what is political?

Wah! At least we can try to..in the investors forum...
winston
#2100 Posted : Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:25:19 AM
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murchr wrote:
winston wrote:
Probably we need to de-politicize the way we dress our 'facts'.
Are companies closing down? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are branches being shut? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are staff being retrenched? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has the GDP Shrunk? Yes. Is it political? No.
Has Inflation increased? Yes. Is it political? No.
Are workers on strike because of salary related issues? Yes. Is it political? No.

Maybe am wrong...but it doesnt look like a picture of any economy that is not bleeding.


The GDP of Kenya in 2013 was $55.3Bn and it grew to $62.7Bn in 2015

Thanks for the correction. my apologies. Though...others will say where is the 'real' growth for wanjiku? how much is driven by SGR? did rebasing affect the numbers? what is the impact of the borrowing (overborrowing?).
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