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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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maka wrote:Jana on my way to Kiserian I used the Karen - Ngong - Matasia route... Seems like the road is being dualled after Ngong going to Kiserian... Good stuff!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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MugundaMan wrote:maka wrote:Jana on my way to Kiserian I used the Karen - Ngong - Matasia route... Seems like the road is being dualled after Ngong going to Kiserian... Good stuff! Yes, Chinaman undoing the mess that the "King of road contractor Cowboys" now senator, had done on that road. Its part of the improvements on the Isinya-Kiserian-Ngong roads. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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STRICTLY for Dustbowlites in or passing through Jewel in the Crown (Kitengela) Artcaffe: My review Decor - Outstanding. I think this is the largest Artcaffe in Kenya. Very roomy inside. The decor is more posh than Artcaffe Junction , Artcaffe Lavinton Mall, Yaya and Westgate IMHO. Clientele: All I saw was DC creme de la creme. Wazito wazees, a few young DC'rs trying to impress their dates for lunch, and (FRM will be surprised) three muthungus who were not together. It is yet to pick up since it opened just juzi but the crowd was decent enough for them to be able to break even. I love too that they have delivery through Glovo to anywhere in Kite! Service: Outstanding to the point of becoming irritating. They keep checking to see if eveyrthing is ok. WI-fi: Smooth and strong and swift. Password Breadorder - capital B. Thank me later Seating: Both outdoor and Indoor. Pick outdoor, trust me, you will appreciate the reason I say this once you do so. All in all I give it a 9.5/10. Well worth a visit if you are in the DC area Shalom #DustBowlCounty #TheFuture
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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MugundaMan wrote:STRICTLY for Dustbowlites in or passing through Jewel in the Crown (Kitengela) Artcaffe: My review Decor - Outstanding. I think this is the largest Artcaffe in Kenya. Very roomy inside. The decor is more posh than Artcaffe Junction , Artcaffe Lavinton Mall, Yaya and Westgate IMHO. Clientele: All I saw was DC creme de la creme. Wazito wazees, a few young DC'rs trying to impress their dates for lunch, and (FRM will be surprised) three muthungus who were not together. It is yet to pick up since it opened just juzi but the crowd was decent enough for them to be able to break even. I love too that they have delivery through Glovo to anywhere in Kite! Service: Outstanding to the point of becoming irritating. They keep checking to see if eveyrthing is ok. WI-fi: Smooth and strong and swift. Password Breadorder - capital B. Thank me later Seating: Both outdoor and Indoor. Pick outdoor, trust me, you will appreciate the reason I say this once you do so. All in all I give it a 9.5/10. Well worth a visit if you are in the DC area Shalom #DustBowlCounty #TheFuture Price (Value for money)missing... Also talk about parking space/availability.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Price of course ni juu zaidi. They are about 40-50 percent more expensive than Java. Kitengela Mall basement parking (2 levels) is massive sana. Huwezi kosa kabisa. And the price is the best part... F-R-E-E
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Unusual DC weather this time of year. But trust me Im not complaining
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Yep, but the difference is Obiero's KQ is a TURBO-NYANI while my DC is the #FUTURE
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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@mugundaman and all the DC residents.Do you have any information on this sewer project? Whether its happening, timeline and exact areas it covers. Im particularly interested to if it will touch areas around Namanga road. I'm asking coz I have some investments there. this
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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whiteowl wrote:@mugundaman and all the DC residents.Do you have any information on this sewer project? Whether its happening, timeline and exact areas it covers. Im particularly interested to if it will touch areas around Namanga road. I'm asking coz I have some investments there. this https://nairobinews.nati...d-together-by-duct-tape
No idea. This ka-line is for those near EPZ area of Kitengela/Athi River I would assume. For me, the funny thing is why we as Kenyans always resort to stone age technologies that many other nations are moving from. Could it be we lack imagination, inspiration and creativity? Or we are just too lazy to pick up a few books and do a google search in order to find out what solutions work best and are environmentally safe for all. I have said it umpteen times here before. The future of waste disposal and having clean, fluoride and contaminant free water is very simple 1. Biodigesters - the most environmentally safe way to dispose organic human waste on the planet. Byproduct; recyclable H20 and harmless quantities of gas 2. Rainwater harvesting from clay roofs 3. Building adequate underground water storage to harvest said water, plus additional storage on grade if necessary (depending on family size) 4. Go 100% solar with KPLC being "back up" tu But people never listen. They would rather spend millions of shillings building antiquated lines that will leak and contaminate groundwater evern more, massive sewer plants that require hundreds of millions of shillings, drill boreholes full of contaminated salty/fluoride infested water (and sewerage contaminants) or get Kanjo water that sometimes comes out black as night in Lavington let alone the rest of the city and suburbs. If people do not want to learn, can you blame them? They will be the same ones mourning over cancer for three weeks wondering what happened when someone famous dies of it. Isatragedy!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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MugundaMan wrote:whiteowl wrote:@mugundaman and all the DC residents.Do you have any information on this sewer project? Whether its happening, timeline and exact areas it covers. Im particularly interested to if it will touch areas around Namanga road. I'm asking coz I have some investments there. this https://nairobinews.nati...d-together-by-duct-tape
No idea. This ka-line is for those near EPZ area of Kitengela/Athi River I would assume. For me, the funny thing is why we as Kenyans always resort to stone age technologies that many other nations are moving from. Could it be we lack imagination, inspiration and creativity? Or we are just too lazy to pick up a few books and do a google search in order to find out what solutions work best and are environmentally safe for all. I have said it umpteen times here before. The future of waste disposal and having clean, fluoride and contaminant free water is very simple 1. Biodigesters - the most environmentally safe way to dispose organic human waste on the planet. Byproduct; recyclable H20 and harmless quantities of gas 2. Rainwater harvesting from clay roofs 3. Building adequate underground water storage to harvest said water, plus additional storage on grade if necessary (depending on family size) 4. Go 100% solar with KPLC being "back up" tu But people never listen. They would rather spend millions of shillings building antiquated lines that will leak and contaminate groundwater evern more, massive sewer plants that require hundreds of millions of shillings, drill boreholes full of contaminated salty/fluoride infested water (and sewerage contaminants) or get Kanjo water that sometimes comes out black as night in Lavington let alone the rest of the city and suburbs. If people do not want to learn, can you blame them? They will be the same ones mourning over cancer for three weeks wondering what happened when someone famous dies of it. Isatragedy! For commercial units with a biodigester you end up with excess recycled water which you still need to dispose.Nema license to dispose the recycled water costs 80k per year.For a standalone residential house this isn't a problem coz the water consumption is low.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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whiteowl wrote:
For commercial units with a biodigester you end up with excess recycled water which you still need to dispose.Nema license to dispose the recycled water costs 80k per year.For a standalone residential house this isn't a problem coz the water consumption is low.
This respectfully, is not true. For commercial flats, if a tiny 2sqm unit can serve 100 users beautifully and a 4sqm unit can serve 400 users efficiently water disposal is of little to no concern if the soakaways are competently built, EVEN in black cotton soil areas. The water gets disposed into the soakaways easily without any pooling issues.It can even be recycled for trees, lawns and shrubs with no harmful health effects! Biodigesters that are properly built exceed all NEMA discharge standards and the daily approvals NEMA gives to large projects that use them is clear evidence of this. If you ever paid 80k to a NEMA official for a biodigester "license" to do anything then chances are you are being extorted or conned by said officials IMHO.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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MugundaMan wrote:whiteowl wrote:
For commercial units with a biodigester you end up with excess recycled water which you still need to dispose.Nema license to dispose the recycled water costs 80k per year.For a standalone residential house this isn't a problem coz the water consumption is low.
This respectfully, is not true. For commercial flats, if a tiny 2sqm unit can serve 100 users beautifully and a 4sqm unit can serve 400 users efficiently water disposal is of little to no concern if the soakaways are competently built, EVEN in black cotton soil areas. The water gets disposed into the soakaways easily without any pooling issues.It can even be recycled for trees, lawns and shrubs with no harmful health effects! Biodigesters that are properly built exceed all NEMA discharge standards and the daily approvals NEMA gives to large projects that use them is clear evidence of this. If you ever paid 80k to a NEMA official for a biodigester "license" to do anything then chances are you are being extorted or conned by said officials IMHO. Its called affluent discharge license. I have never paid for it but I'd need to if I go the biodigester route.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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whiteowl wrote:MugundaMan wrote:whiteowl wrote:
For commercial units with a biodigester you end up with excess recycled water which you still need to dispose.Nema license to dispose the recycled water costs 80k per year.For a standalone residential house this isn't a problem coz the water consumption is low.
This respectfully, is not true. For commercial flats, if a tiny 2sqm unit can serve 100 users beautifully and a 4sqm unit can serve 400 users efficiently water disposal is of little to no concern if the soakaways are competently built, EVEN in black cotton soil areas. The water gets disposed into the soakaways easily without any pooling issues.It can even be recycled for trees, lawns and shrubs with no harmful health effects! Biodigesters that are properly built exceed all NEMA discharge standards and the daily approvals NEMA gives to large projects that use them is clear evidence of this. If you ever paid 80k to a NEMA official for a biodigester "license" to do anything then chances are you are being extorted or conned by said officials IMHO. Its called affluent discharge license. I have never paid for it but I'd need to if I go the biodigester route. You are mixing issues, my broda. A slaughterhouse would need an EDL, A large hotel processing raw sewerage in a SEPTIC TANK and releasing the excess water into the environment would need a n EDL. A manufacturing facility producing toxic substances in their wastewater would need an EDL. An apartment owner with 50 tenants with a properly built biodigester is not in the same category. Confirm with NEMA regulations and annual licensing requirements for EDLs according to the law. Usidanganywe!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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@shambaman can you put a pikcha or sketch of a biodegester I see? How does it differ from a septic tank?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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hardwood wrote:@shambaman can you put a pikcha or sketch of a biodegester I see? How does it differ from a septic tank? Biodigester examples: https://www.google.com/s...mp;biw=1213&bih=610
Septic tanks:
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Difference? Traditional septic - You will have to pay for an exhauster whenever your septic is full. It can stink up your property big time. Huge tank needed compared to biodigester. Biodigester - No paying for anything for the rest of your life. Perhaps only introducing more of the microorganisms into the biodigester every 5 years or so. Only waste is clean H20 and small amounts of methane. It does not stink. Very tiny compared to full septic tank.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Isn't there a risk of the effluent from the biodigester contaminating water in an underground tank? Note that its difficult to make an undergound water tank 100% leak proof.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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hardwood wrote:Isn't there a risk of the effluent from the biodigester contaminating water in an underground tank? Note that its difficult to make an undergound water tank 100% leak proof. Hardly a chance. The water coming out of the biodigester is hardly harmful to begin with but of course for an added measure of safety you would not build them side by side.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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MugundaMan wrote:hardwood wrote:Isn't there a risk of the effluent from the biodigester contaminating water in an underground tank? Note that its difficult to make an undergound water tank 100% leak proof. Hardly a chance. The water coming out of the biodigester is hardly harmful to begin with but of course for an added measure of safety you would not build them side by side. What about E. coli and other pathogens?.
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