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Too many HELLOS, Time to quit stocks!
jerry
#201 Posted : Saturday, January 02, 2016 10:02:31 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/29/2006
Posts: 2,570
Runner wrote:
sparkly wrote:
1 January 2016 time to review the thread.

In January 2014, I po predicted that 2014 would be the last good year for stocks.

Advised people to sell before the year 2015, which would be a negative return year for stocks.

Advised people to stay liquid or invest their money elsewhere.

As expected, doubting Thomases were sceptical. The believers believed.

What happened in 2015:

1. NSE Index tanked below 4000.
2. KES/USD shot to 107
3. Poor corporate earnings. 17? profit warnings.
4. T-bills returned as much as 24% at some point.

Bottom line - 2014/5 was time to sell stocks, and be invested in cash/cash equivalents.

The prophesy unravelled right in front of our eyes.



What is the prediction for 2016?

No respite!
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whiteowl
#202 Posted : Saturday, January 02, 2016 10:27:14 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/16/2014
Posts: 1,420
Location: Bohemian Grove
Runner wrote:
sparkly wrote:
1 January 2016 time to review the thread.

In January 2014, I po predicted that 2014 would be the last good year for stocks.

Advised people to sell before the year 2015, which would be a negative return year for stocks.

Advised people to stay liquid or invest their money elsewhere.

As expected, doubting Thomases were sceptical. The believers believed.

What happened in 2015:

1. NSE Index tanked below 4000.
2. KES/USD shot to 107
3. Poor corporate earnings. 17? profit warnings.
4. T-bills returned as much as 24% at some point.

Bottom line - 2014/5 was time to sell stocks, and be invested in cash/cash equivalents.

The prophesy unravelled right in front of our eyes.



What is the prediction for 2016?


With a record profit warnings, it will take nothing short of a miracle for the index to move up.
sparkly
#203 Posted : Saturday, January 02, 2016 2:37:50 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
PREDICTIONS FOR 2016-

Stock market will be range bound. Prices will go up, prices will go down.

2016 will be a traders market due to the volatility.

Fundamental investors, hold on to your positions, provided the positions are solid (refer to the "2 stocks for life thread").

If you are new in the game, buy these shares to beat the pros:
1. TPS Serena- Target 45 by June 2017.
2. Housing Finance - 50 by March 2017.
3. Kengen - 15 ex-rights equivalent by December 2016.
4.Centum - 80 by December 2016.
5. Kenya Re - 35 by September 2016.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#204 Posted : Saturday, January 02, 2016 2:49:43 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
PREDICTIONS FOR 2016-

Stock market will be range bound. Prices will go up, prices will go down.

2016 will be a traders market due to the volatility.

Fundamental investors, hold on to your positions, provided the positions are solid (refer to the "2 stocks for life thread").

If you are new in the game, buy these shares to beat the pros:
1. TPS Serena- Target 45 by June 2017.
2. Housing Finance - 50 by March 2017.
3. Kengen - 15 ex-rights equivalent by December 2016.
4.Centum - 80 by December 2016.
5. Kenya Re - 35 by September 2016.

I am not so sure about KenGen. Too many shares, a potential 'failed' Rights & Scams, Inc.
Centum will also face headwinds in a high interest rate environment & a weak KES.
I'd love to see TPS and KenRe pop as you say.
I am ambivalent on HFCK coz I am not a shareholder.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#205 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2016 9:17:40 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
PREDICTIONS FOR 2016-

Stock market will be range bound. Prices will go up, prices will go down.

2016 will be a traders market due to the volatility.

Fundamental investors, hold on to your positions, provided the positions are solid (refer to the "2 stocks for life thread").

If you are new in the game, buy these shares to beat the pros:
1. TPS Serena- Target 45 by June 2017.
2. Housing Finance - 50 by March 2017.
3. Kengen - 15 ex-rights equivalent by December 2016.
4.Centum - 80 by December 2016.
5. Kenya Re - 35 by September 2016.

I am not so sure about KenGen. Too many shares, a potential 'failed' Rights & Scams, Inc.

GOK already taking up 70% by conversion, no failure.

Centum will also face headwinds in a high interest rate environment & a weak KES.
I'd love to see TPS and KenRe pop as you say.
I am ambivalent on HFCK coz I am not a shareholder.

Life is short. Live passionately.
Aguytrying
#206 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2016 6:25:36 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
PREDICTIONS FOR 2016-

Stock market will be range bound. Prices will go up, prices will go down.

2016 will be a traders market due to the volatility.

Fundamental investors, hold on to your positions, provided the positions are solid (refer to the "2 stocks for life thread").

If you are new in the game, buy these shares to beat the pros:
1. TPS Serena- Target 45 by June 2017.
2. Housing Finance - 50 by March 2017.
3. Kengen - 15 ex-rights equivalent by December 2016.
4.Centum - 80 by December 2016.
5. Kenya Re - 35 by September 2016.

I am not so sure about KenGen. Too many shares, a potential 'failed' Rights & Scams, Inc.
Centum will also face headwinds in a high interest rate environment & a weak KES.
I'd love to see TPS and KenRe pop as you say.
I am ambivalent on HFCK coz I am not a shareholder.


Agreed. In hfck 50.00 would imply a very high pe, remember rights dilution. That can only materialise in a proper bull run
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#207 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2016 6:27:24 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
I think the market will be relatively flat in 2016 +-10% range and it will be time to plant
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
VituVingiSana
#208 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2016 7:38:10 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
PREDICTIONS FOR 2016-

Stock market will be range bound. Prices will go up, prices will go down.

2016 will be a traders market due to the volatility.

Fundamental investors, hold on to your positions, provided the positions are solid (refer to the "2 stocks for life thread").

If you are new in the game, buy these shares to beat the pros:
1. TPS Serena- Target 45 by June 2017.
2. Housing Finance - 50 by March 2017.
3. Kengen - 15 ex-rights equivalent by December 2016.
4.Centum - 80 by December 2016.
5. Kenya Re - 35 by September 2016.

I am not so sure about KenGen. Too many shares, a potential 'failed' Rights & Scams, Inc.

GOK already taking up 70% by conversion, no failure.

Centum will also face headwinds in a high interest rate environment & a weak KES.
I'd love to see TPS and KenRe pop as you say.
I am ambivalent on HFCK coz I am not a shareholder.


That's like saying KQ had a successful Rights Issue. Good luck.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#209 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2016 9:08:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
PREDICTIONS FOR 2016-

Stock market will be range bound. Prices will go up, prices will go down.

2016 will be a traders market due to the volatility.

Fundamental investors, hold on to your positions, provided the positions are solid (refer to the "2 stocks for life thread").

If you are new in the game, buy these shares to beat the pros:
1. TPS Serena- Target 45 by June 2017.
2. Housing Finance - 50 by March 2017.
3. Kengen - 15 ex-rights equivalent by December 2016.
4.Centum - 80 by December 2016.
5. Kenya Re - 35 by September 2016.

I am not so sure about KenGen. Too many shares, a potential 'failed' Rights & Scams, Inc.

GOK already taking up 70% by conversion, no failure.

Centum will also face headwinds in a high interest rate environment & a weak KES.
I'd love to see TPS and KenRe pop as you say.
I am ambivalent on HFCK coz I am not a shareholder.


That's like saying KQ had a successful Rights Issue. Good luck.


Are we discussing Kengen or KQ? Focus @VVS
Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#210 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:28:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Hellos, time to buy is now. You will not regret as long as you buy wisely. If you were burnt in 2015, consider it a lesson learnt.
Life is short. Live passionately.
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