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enyands wrote:murchr wrote:nakujua wrote:enyands wrote:nakujua wrote:We do not create, but love consuming - just look at wazua as an example, most discussions lie between politics and stock/money investments - very little in the sme section, very few are willing to do the dirty work.
Its like on a farm, where a farmer is mostly preoccupied with betting on speculating if the neigboring farms will have better yields or not. I think we need to get dirty more. load us with tips @nakujua.. what I know the problem is that politics go hand in hand with economy /stocks . let me give you an example.@mnadii gives all his examples to how political crisis affects the human behavioral pattern (thus obeying the wave pattern he refers to all the time) hence affecting how investment is done. If we make good constructive political criticism in us then we can know how the mood is to jump in or jump out on floor,,,, im just saying and could be right or wrong but stand to be corrected .socio-politics affects much the socio-economic dynamics.they are so so much correlated and cant separate the two ...this is just me how I see it Of course as you mention politics will go hand in hand with the economy / stocks, I am not disputing that. But in my view we missed a stage, a stage where those who had the money, or resources could only multiply the same by producing more - of course that was before the modern investment / money making tools came around. If you look at it, politics and the stock market are great drivers of a decent economy, but if introduced too early you find your self in a situation where you are trying to drive a vehicle whose engine is not yet complete. Developing countries I feel find themselves in that situation, where those who have the money, or resources (education) find it easier propping or seeking to prop up a very narrow mature segemnt and making all efforts to close it up. SO where does that leave the majority who do not have - disparities become extreme. We messed up the education system Why do policy makers think that all of the kids in Kenya can only be in professions that involve maths, and science? They took away vital subjects such as Arts and Crafts Music etc. You cannot build anything without the creative mind. Steve Jobs MAC succeeded after he incorporated art in the whole design. As the kids progress to high school and university, one glaring thing that shows is the lack of critical thinking skills...even at the work place, that's because kids study for exams that go like "Name factors that lead to soil erosion, What is ...nothing problem solving..thats why many employers claim that our graduates are half baked...conceptualization is a problem. @murchr you are right. Seriously if these guys are still teaching about how to stop soil erosion at primary schools is just garbage. When kids are in primary I believe that's when they can be moulded to get a talent and perfect what they are good at .lakini you imbibe their brains with garbage about soil erosion ?? Really ,who told you that that kid will want to be a farmer? Germany as a country ,kids a nurtured into engineering world when they are young .you will never see kids there in Europe being taught how to stop soil erosion .they let the kids develop their career in what pleases them. Another garbage is kids in usa are taught, geography and in this geography they learn 90% topography of usa(coz it belongs to them ) ,5% Europe ,4% Asia and 1% Africa( of which they concetrate on Egypt and their funny pyramids )lakini here kenya they teach you all garbage about usa, Asia ,bla bla.tell me unafundisha mtoto about tundra in usa,how will it help this kenyan kid and all his life maybe he will never step in usa.there is alot of irrelevance in our education . At times we are responsible for the state of affairs we find ourselves in save for factors beyond us. We choose the 'leaders' to lead the nation as well as institutions but we rarely look at their ability to do so thus we are always in the 'same' circle. The so called 'leaders' just know how to play politics and politicise almost everything hence we react to the their politicization of things. I believe if we elect good leaders with ability to develop and change we will react differently since they would detach/lower the mutual dependency of politics from economics and have the 2 run independently with minimal interference. my thoughts. fast foward pry kids to graduands, what is the relation of what they are studying to application of the same? Are they really learning to offer solutions to geopolitical issues currently being felt?..food for thought
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,808 Location: NAIROBI
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Prudent management of funds; http://www.cnbc.com/2015...-wealth-fund-peaked.htmlWealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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[quote=Ericsson]Prudent management of funds; http://www.cnbc.com/2015...wealth-fund-peaked.html[/quote] Rem watching a documentary about that Norway fund...crazy figures. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Emerger wrote:
At times we are responsible for the state of affairs we find ourselves in save for factors beyond us.
We choose the 'leaders' to lead the nation as well as institutions but we rarely look at their ability to do so thus we are always in the 'same' circle. The so called 'leaders' just know how to play politics and politicise almost everything hence we react to the their politicization of things. I believe if we elect good leaders with ability to develop and change we will react differently since they would detach/lower the mutual dependency of politics from economics and have the 2 run independently with minimal interference. my thoughts.
fast foward pry kids to graduands, what is the relation of what they are studying to application of the same? Are they really learning to offer solutions to geopolitical issues currently being felt?..food for thought
But you really can not blame the mwananchi for the leadership mess we are in, look at it this way - Primary to secondary school transition is at about 60%, and of the roughly 60% only about 25% will manage to score a c+ and above, factoring in bridging courses and others we can bump up the figure to around 30-40 % who manage to get a form of post secondary education. Considering around 45-50% of Kenyans live below the poverty line, of the remaining majority live in poverty - that means access power, libraries, newspapers, the internet, colleagues who are knowledgeable in particular areas ... remains a luxury to most. Now how are these great numbers supposed to understand the correlation between political leadership and the economy, it may seem trivial to us, but the masses depend on political rallies for information. Add to that the middle and upper classes have closed themselves in and do everything to keep away the masses - in short when it comes to leadership nothing will change, not any time soon.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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nakujua wrote:Emerger wrote:
At times we are responsible for the state of affairs we find ourselves in save for factors beyond us.
We choose the 'leaders' to lead the nation as well as institutions but we rarely look at their ability to do so thus we are always in the 'same' circle. The so called 'leaders' just know how to play politics and politicise almost everything hence we react to the their politicization of things. I believe if we elect good leaders with ability to develop and change we will react differently since they would detach/lower the mutual dependency of politics from economics and have the 2 run independently with minimal interference. my thoughts.
fast foward pry kids to graduands, what is the relation of what they are studying to application of the same? Are they really learning to offer solutions to geopolitical issues currently being felt?..food for thought
But you really can not blame the mwananchi for the leadership mess we are in, look at it this way - Primary to secondary school transition is at about 60%, and of the roughly 60% only about 25% will manage to score a c+ and above, factoring in bridging courses and others we can bump up the figure to around 30-40 % who manage to get a form of post secondary education. Considering around 45-50% of Kenyans live below the poverty line, of the remaining majority live in poverty - that means access power, libraries, newspapers, the internet, colleagues who are knowledgeable in particular areas ... remains a luxury to most. Now how are these great numbers supposed to understand the correlation between political leadership and the economy, it may seem trivial to us, but the masses depend on political rallies for information. Add to that the middle and upper classes have closed themselves in and do everything to keep away the masses - in short when it comes to leadership nothing will change, not any time soon. Hiring different monkeys to replace old monkeys living in the same forest
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 288 Location: OZ
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murchr wrote:nakujua wrote:enyands wrote:nakujua wrote:We do not create, but love consuming - just look at wazua as an example, most discussions lie between politics and stock/money investments - very little in the sme section, very few are willing to do the dirty work.
Its like on a farm, where a farmer is mostly preoccupied with betting on speculating if the neigboring farms will have better yields or not. I think we need to get dirty more. load us with tips @nakujua.. what I know the problem is that politics go hand in hand with economy /stocks . let me give you an example.@mnadii gives all his examples to how political crisis affects the human behavioral pattern (thus obeying the wave pattern he refers to all the time) hence affecting how investment is done. If we make good constructive political criticism in us then we can know how the mood is to jump in or jump out on floor,,,, im just saying and could be right or wrong but stand to be corrected .socio-politics affects much the socio-economic dynamics.they are so so much correlated and cant separate the two ...this is just me how I see it Of course as you mention politics will go hand in hand with the economy / stocks, I am not disputing that. But in my view we missed a stage, a stage where those who had the money, or resources could only multiply the same by producing more - of course that was before the modern investment / money making tools came around. If you look at it, politics and the stock market are great drivers of a decent economy, but if introduced too early you find your self in a situation where you are trying to drive a vehicle whose engine is not yet complete. Developing countries I feel find themselves in that situation, where those who have the money, or resources (education) find it easier propping or seeking to prop up a very narrow mature segemnt and making all efforts to close it up. SO where does that leave the majority who do not have - disparities become extreme. We messed up the education system Why do policy makers think that all of the kids in Kenya can only be in professions that involve maths, and science? They took away vital subjects such as Arts and Crafts Music etc. You cannot build anything without the creative mind. Steve Jobs MAC succeeded after he incorporated art in the whole design. As the kids progress to high school and university, one glaring thing that shows is the lack of critical thinking skills...even at the work place, that's because kids study for exams that go like "Name factors that lead to soil erosion, What is ...nothing problem solving..thats why many employers claim that our graduates are half baked...conceptualization is a problem. "As the kids progress to high school and university, one glaring thing that shows is the lack of critical thinking skills...even at the work place, that's because kids study for exams that go like "Name factors that lead to soil erosion?." That there is problem of current education system, it encourages cramming and memorising? This how you build a nation of thinkers, just using Soil Erosion Topic: Discuss the impacts of Soil Erosion to environment and crops yield? What can be done to stop soil erosion? Such a question stimulates actual thinking from a student and teachers.. There are no fixed answers, just depends on how well your articulate your answers. More monies, more problems...
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 245 Location: Thika
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I will explain using Kenya as a case study. Kenya is poor because of a faulty system of governance that is bloated with unnecessary positions and expenses. Kenya needs only 15 counties and we have 47 counties. This forms a top-heavy management for the country and many opportunities for numerous politicians to steal. In my opinion, Kenya needs 15 counties or less, with a lean government structure followed by an air-tight system of government. Since men have learned to shoot without missing, I have learned to fly without perching
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,387
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We need to produce more(at all levels) than import more. We must mke our country investor friendly, stop thievery(Carjacking, mugging stealing), corruption(even imported corruption), nepotism, tribalism,laziness poor schooling and carriculum.
We should as well reward those with good ideas that are workable and could help the country to grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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I know that through the above problems is where the rich greedy rich people thrive from. example poor schooling , a rich kid will take his kid to a very good resourced school and in turn the kid will graduate and get a good job and the cycle continues. stealing - you know how stealing goes as in getting whats not yours and getting richness from it,corruption -talk of kra employees who get rich overnight , anyway its sad but the selfish rich would love this problems to be there so that they can stand out to be rich
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Found this interesting documentary! A must watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNYemuiAOfU
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