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BIDS 83,000 Quantity Price Splits Time 18,800 13.70 1 11:43:48 64,200 13.50 3 11:43:48 - - - - - - - - - - - - ASKS 161,100 Quantity Price Splits Time 21,500 14.00 3 11:43:48 5,300 14.10 2 11:43:48 126,400 14.20 1 11:43:48 300 14.50 1 11:43:48 200 14.60 1 11:43:48 TRADES Quantity Price Time 1,200 14.00 11:43:47 1,000 14.00 11:43:45 200 14.00 11:43:45 2,300 14.00 11:05:49 1,200 13.70 10:51:09 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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KQ to announce their Full Year results on 14th June 2012. What numbers do you expect taking into account the profit warning issued! Follow us on Twitter @genghiscapital “Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren’t used to an environment where excellence is expected.” Steve Jobs,iGenius
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GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:KQ to announce their Full Year results on 14th June 2012. What numbers do you expect taking into account the profit warning issued! 2 billion shs net profit. A 42% drop. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Aguytrying wrote:GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:KQ to announce their Full Year results on 14th June 2012. What numbers do you expect taking into account the profit warning issued! 2 billion shs net profit. A 42% drop. Fuel bill, strong KES (reduced fx gains on euro and dollar), tourism slowdown especially from eurozone for obvious reasons; I think 42% profit dip is quite optimistic. Should be more than 50%.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,118 Location: Nairobi
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Divide the estimates (by @AguyTrying & @hisah) by the total number of shares (after the Rights Issue) & you will find the PE Ratio is quite high! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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The travesty is to have allowed recently issued shares in may (after 31st Mar 2012) to rank pari passu for dividends of earnings to be announced tomorrow. This was just playing to the gallery to entice investors to participate in the rights issue.
However on closer introspection, KQ with that declaration may have been thinly communicating to shareholders that there will be no dividends to be declared from the yet to be released results. Earnings will be weak, rights issue was largely abysmal and the company can do with all the profits. The vibe in the global economy suggests that come July and september pax numbers will only at best have improved marginally setting the airline up for another flat year!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/23/2010 Posts: 868 Location: La Islas Galápagos
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hisah wrote:Aguytrying wrote:GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:KQ to announce their Full Year results on 14th June 2012. What numbers do you expect taking into account the profit warning issued! 2 billion shs net profit. A 42% drop. Fuel bill, strong KES (reduced fx gains on euro and dollar), tourism slowdown especially from eurozone for obvious reasons; I think 42% profit dip is quite optimistic. Should be more than 50%. Oil prices were going down, hence hedging losses left, right and centre. A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander
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I just logged in to confirm that this stock is crap! ...atleast Olympia Capital has the decency of accepting they are crap..something Naikuni ought to accede to. Anyway..that said..the confidence of the Finance Director in pursuin debt when fortunes are glimmer this year than previous years..and unlikely to improve next year, is puzzling... on the profit warning...blaming Tourism figures and yet Ministry of Tourism is excited by the said tourism figures is laughable...at best.. sad counter indeed..as is the blaming "hedging" si two years ago they were so exited about their "hedging" plans? Kwani at what point will the Management accede to the fact that the Company's efficiency levels are crap...and that they are spending too much on Publicity to a population that is unlikely to fly them? ...plus cheaper transit rates per passenger while spending more per passenger than other airlines is NEVER a winning formula! Atleast the excuse that other airlines are from Oil rich nations will not hold much further with oil find in Turu but same inefficiencies are likely to remain.. ...still maintain...not worth touching unless below 9Bob ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16 - 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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ProverB wrote:I just logged in to confirm that this stock is crap! ...atleast Olympia Capital has the decency of accepting they are crap..something Naikuni ought to accede to.
Anyway..that said..the confidence of the Finance Director in pursuin debt when fortunes are glimmer this year than previous years..and unlikely to improve next year, is puzzling...
on the profit warning...blaming Tourism figures and yet Ministry of Tourism is excited by the said tourism figures is laughable...at best.. sad counter indeed..as is the blaming "hedging" si two years ago they were so exited about their "hedging" plans? Kwani at what point will the Management accede to the fact that the Company's efficiency levels are crap...and that they are spending too much on Publicity to a population that is unlikely to fly them? ...plus cheaper transit rates per passenger while spending more per passenger than other airlines is NEVER a winning formula!
Atleast the excuse that other airlines are from Oil rich nations will not hold much further with oil find in Turu but same inefficiencies are likely to remain..
...still maintain...not worth touching unless below 9Bob LOL! mumeskia vile mboss amesema ! kweli hayo
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,118 Location: Nairobi
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ProverB wrote:I just logged in to confirm that this stock is crap! ...atleast Olympia Capital has the decency of accepting they are crap..something Naikuni ought to accede to. titus should replace michael matu as CEO. Seems the performance of Olympia will be maintained! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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hisah wrote:Aguytrying wrote:GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:KQ to announce their Full Year results on 14th June 2012. What numbers do you expect taking into account the profit warning issued! 2 billion shs net profit. A 42% drop. Fuel bill, strong KES (reduced fx gains on euro and dollar), tourism slowdown especially from eurozone for obvious reasons; I think 42% profit dip is quite optimistic. Should be more than 50%. lol. we arenot in a recession !
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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QW25091985 wrote:hisah wrote:Aguytrying wrote:GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:KQ to announce their Full Year results on 14th June 2012. What numbers do you expect taking into account the profit warning issued! 2 billion shs net profit. A 42% drop. Fuel bill, strong KES (reduced fx gains on euro and dollar), tourism slowdown especially from eurozone for obvious reasons; I think 42% profit dip is quite optimistic. Should be more than 50%. lol. we arenot in a recession ! Profits dip 57%. @QW - Can you please be arguing with facts for healthy debates
http://af.reuters.com/ar...s/idAFL5E8HE2JE20120614
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,118 Location: Nairobi
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The 25% profit warning was inadequate! No wonder the Management or Directors of KQ were not interested in buying the shares! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/7/2010 Posts: 251 Location: nairobi
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who has the full results. na kwani receiving stocks analysis from mwekezaji made us be delisted from nse mailing list?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,118 Location: Nairobi
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BIDS 27,600 Quantity Price Splits Time 4,000 13.90 1 12:40:18 1,000 13.80 1 12:40:18 1,800 13.70 2 12:40:18 6,800 13.50 3 12:40:18 14,000 13.00 1 12:40:18 ASKS 53,500 Quantity Price Splits Time 28,600 14.00 3 12:40:18 1,900 14.50 1 12:40:18 500 14.70 1 12:40:18 4,200 15.00 5 12:40:18 400 15.40 1 12:40:18 TRADES Quantity Price Time 6,000 13.90 12:40:17 1,000 13.95 12:40:11 1,000 13.95 12:29:20 400 13.95 12:28:43 2,000 13.95 12:28:30 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,459
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hisah wrote:QW25091985 wrote:hisah wrote:Aguytrying wrote:GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:KQ to announce their Full Year results on 14th June 2012. What numbers do you expect taking into account the profit warning issued! 2 billion shs net profit. A 42% drop. Fuel bill, strong KES (reduced fx gains on euro and dollar), tourism slowdown especially from eurozone for obvious reasons; I think 42% profit dip is quite optimistic. Should be more than 50%. lol. we arenot in a recession ! Profits dip 57%. @QW - Can you please be arguing with facts for healthy debates
http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL5E8HE2JE20120614
This @QW and his cartoons is a joke. The guy increases font size and makes the font bold and what happens the next day??? 57% drop!!! his cartoons did not show him that??? Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/12/2010 Posts: 1,199 Location: Eastlander
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@Mwekezaji... I hope your valuation has changed now? ..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16 - 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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MaichBlack wrote:hisah wrote:QW25091985 wrote:hisah wrote:Aguytrying wrote:GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:KQ to announce their Full Year results on 14th June 2012. What numbers do you expect taking into account the profit warning issued! 2 billion shs net profit. A 42% drop. Fuel bill, strong KES (reduced fx gains on euro and dollar), tourism slowdown especially from eurozone for obvious reasons; I think 42% profit dip is quite optimistic. Should be more than 50%. lol. we arenot in a recession ! Profits dip 57%. @QW - Can you please be arguing with facts for healthy debates
http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL5E8HE2JE20120614
This @QW and his cartoons is a joke. The guy increases font size and makes the font bold and what happens the next day??? 57% drop!!! his cartoons did not show him that??? they arenot cartoons ! but i willnt waste my effort arguing with an ignorant person . so let it stay like that !
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