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hardwood wrote:alma1 wrote:hardwood wrote:alma1 wrote:Hardwood, I told you yesterday I'm not in a pissing contest with you. Go to the Trump thread. There I can entertain your madness. Those fake number plates are one of the reasons people died. Sawa? Someone in gov't should have resigned by now for their corrupt and immoral behavior.
On another note. You should apologise for suggesting that I was peddling falsehoods when I said these guys were Kikuyus. I was wrong. In fact, there were 2 Kikuyus involved.
Maybe now you should stop attacking guru and Alphdoti about their kinsmen behavior and start telling us why Kikuyus are killing Kenyans.
Terrorism is a symptom of a disease we have in this country. Corruption. To the point where it is now easy to convert a young jobless Kenyan to go killing his own countrymen.
Tafakari hayo. All I know is that 6 radicalized muslims made the attack. Just like radicalised kenyan youths from the coast (digo, miji kenda etc)and NE, and trained in somalia have made previous attacks. You also saw a radicalised mzungu from britain among the fighters some time back. So take your okuyo nonsense away. ohhhh. I have hurt your feelings? How do you think a Kenyan Somali feels every time you and your ilk compares them to terrorists. Again I want to remind you, it's not Muslims, it's terrorists. Lest you forget one of these fellas was called Erick. Grow up. Terrorists don't have a tribe or ethnicity nor a religion. They are just bad people. We need the help of Muslims, Christians, Somalis and Kikuyus to eliminate them. Now you go create another hashtag. Men are busy talking. This thing is much much larger than your small tribal mind can fathom. It's all about alshabab and the caliphate. And their aim is to establish a radical Islamic republic in zomalia. The 2 foreign fighters (converted okuyos) are just tools being used in the bigger war. https://twitter.com/AJEN...tus/1085175396029657095
https://www.the-star.co....-returnee-says_c1843608
. @hardwood, it is you who is being small tribal mind. The sasme way you are hurt to associate kikuyus from the terrorism, is the same way you not associate other tribes or religions in terrorism. But call criminal activity as it is: crime. It is not Limuru people, but Eric Kinyanjui and it is not Nyeri people but Gichunge... Yiu need to sober up and recognize that attackers are not Kikuyu people or Somali people or Digo people or Nyeri people or Limuru people... but evil and criminal people who can belong to any tribe, race, country etc. No tribe or religion teaches such things...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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AlphDoti wrote:
@hardwood,
Yiu need to sober up and recognize that attackers are not Kikuyu people or Somali people or Digo people or Nyeri people or Limuru people... but evil and criminal people who can belong to any tribe, race, country etc. No tribe or religion teaches such things...
But I said just like everyone else that it was an alshabab terrorist attack. Is my statement wrong?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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hardwood wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@hardwood...
You need to sober up and recognize that attackers are not Kikuyu people or Somali people or Digo people or Nyeri people or Limuru people... but evil and criminal people who can belong to any tribe, race, country etc. No tribe or religion teaches such things... But I said just like everyone else that it was an alshabab terrorist attack. Is my statement wrong? Here you are not wrong. The problem is, all along you have been labelling tribes or religions together with evil. And now you got hurt when Eric Kinyanjui was named. This s what I'm asking you to stop. Since I believe you have studied widely to understand that evil cannot be made to represent tribe or religion. That is what the media and people with shallow mind are trying to show, and it seems you want to blindly quote them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@hardwood...
You need to sober up and recognize that attackers are not Kikuyu people or Somali people or Digo people or Nyeri people or Limuru people... but evil and criminal people who can belong to any tribe, race, country etc. No tribe or religion teaches such things... But I said just like everyone else that it was an alshabab terrorist attack. Is my statement wrong? Here you are not wrong. The problem is, all along you have been labelling tribes or religions together with evil. And now you got hurt when Eric Kinyanjui was named. This s what I'm asking you to stop. Since I believe you have studied widely to understand that evil cannot be made to represent tribe or religion. That is what the media and people with shallow mind are trying to show, and it seems you want to blindly quote them. I think you are confusing me with @alma (see what he said below). It's him who brought the tribal issues into the discussion. Throughout this discussion I have stated that the attack was by radicalized terrorists. alma1 wrote:On another note. You should apologise for suggesting that I was peddling falsehoods when I said these guys were Kikuyus. I was wrong. In fact, there were 2 Kikuyus involved.
Maybe now you should stop attacking guru and Alphdoti about their kinsmen behavior and start telling us why Kikuyus are killing Kenyans.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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These back and forth debates skirt over one main thing; What is the common denominator among the terrorists. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Nandwa wrote:These back and forth debates skirt over one main thing;
What is the common denominator among the terrorists. I am sure you will tell us. Ohhh Holy one. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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BS reason for the attack was to revenge against Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as Israel capital. https://www.kenyans.co.k...cision-al-shabaab?amp=1
Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Twisted minds! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Seems only Madam Guru understands what's happening.... guru267 wrote:These are petty arguments. Plenty of non Somalis were trained in Somalia and have returned or are set to return. Getting weapons into Kenya is pure child's play. Maybe the next one can be prevented guru267 wrote:These guys were trained to love death. They came seeking their own death. Their pictures will be shared with current recruits to show martyrdom can be achieved. guru267 wrote:You need to understand these people's concept of Jihad! It is then you will realize that these photos are simply a fuel to the fire.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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hardwood wrote:Seems only Madam Guru understands what's happening.... guru267 wrote:These are petty arguments. Plenty of non Somalis were trained in Somalia and have returned or are set to return. Getting weapons into Kenya is pure child's play. Maybe the next one can be prevented guru267 wrote:These guys were trained to love death. They came seeking their own death. Their pictures will be shared with current recruits to show martyrdom can be achieved. guru267 wrote:You need to understand these people's concept of Jihad! It is then you will realize that these photos are simply a fuel to the fire. At least she is honest. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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