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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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As a parent you will definately make lots of mistake. However, let your children always know, your love to them is unconditional. If they feel unconditional love from you, they will forgive any shortcoming you may have had and yes, hug them more often and spend time with them
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved. doesn't really matter. she can be charged with murder and after the hearing the judge convicts for a lesser offence of accessory. disregard those theories of 'if she is not convicted of murder she gets away with it.' same way jowi could be charged with murder and gets convicted of manslaughter instead - remember the dola guy? Dola got Manslaughter because his lawyer proved that he did not plan to kill his wife (malice aforethought; no intent), the prosecutor was not able to show any prove of a plan or intent to kill. He happened to act (snap) after a disagreement. He presented himself to police Jowi here stole someone's ID and used it to gain entry into her premise (that may be used to show intent to kill) my point is he was charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter. the court did not acquit him coz murder wasn't proven but instead downgraded it to manslaughter. and my comment was about jackie maribe btw. Ref to post 343 (d) an intention by the act or omission to facilitate the flight or escape from custody of any person who has committed or attempted to commit a felony section 206 (d) provides for one of the circumstances that constitute malice aforethought and not murder. malice aforethought is just another prerequisite of murder and not the only one. it does not oust mens rea and actus reus. Yes and malice aforethought is the prerequisite to murder. So she will need to refutes the fact she did not facilitate the flight someone who had committed a felony. you seem not to be getting it. malice aforethought need to be accompanied by the actual killing (actus reus). it is in a way a higher standard of proof for mens rea. that prove of malice aforethought you keep on repeating cannot lead to a conviction for murder by itself without one actually killing someone. let me give you a clear example of the same - if in facilitating the flight of someone who has committed a felony maribe killed someone, then even if she did not intend to kill, malice aforethought shall be inferred and her act of killing (done to facilitate the flight of say jowie) shall constitute murder. now on the other hand you seem to be saying that by facilitating the flight of someone who has committed a felony she had a malice aforethought in respect of a murder which had already been committed. that is a wrong interpretation of that provision.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/18/2018 Posts: 121
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Fullykenyan wrote:As a parent you will definately make lots of mistake. However, let your children always know, your love to them is unconditional. If they feel unconditional love from you, they will forgive any shortcoming you may have had and yes, hug them more often and spend time with them Ukweli mtupu....I still worry about my kids even though they are grown and seem fairly normal productive members of society...One wrong turn can turn into disaster...Jesus fix it for us... Ce n’est pas si grave...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Wazuans are gullible "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Wazuans are gullible
Isn't it against the LSK laws for a lawyer to pronounce him/herself publicly on an ongoing case?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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murchr wrote:Wazuans are gullible
that story was in nation awhile back. it has been in the public knowledge for awhile now. but people have been all over on how he was a mercenary just coz he borrowed some uniforms and took photos. even saw someone claim that he has one half closed eye coz he was a sniper 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:Wazuans are gullible
that story was in nation awhile back. it has been in the public knowledge for awhile now. but people have been all over on how he was a mercenary just coz he borrowed some uniforms and took photos. even saw someone claim that he has one half closed eye coz he was a sniper Ah! I see the insanity defense is coming up well!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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2012 wrote:murchr wrote:Wazuans are gullible
Isn't it against the LSK laws for a lawyer to pronounce him/herself publicly on an ongoing case? He's Kenya's dumbest lawyer. Has never addressed any court, never handled even a single case. A thief who stole during nyayo era and he dares call others petty thieves.'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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2012 wrote:murchr wrote:Wazuans are gullible
Isn't it against the LSK laws for a lawyer to pronounce him/herself publicly on an ongoing case? He is acting as a jury not lawyer in this case. If anything no law bars public opinion "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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At least some smart lawyer pointed out DK's stupidity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/18/2018 Posts: 121
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He's Kenya's dumbest lawyer. Has never addressed any court, never handled even a single case. A thief who stole during nyayo era and he dares call others pretty thieves.
borrowed from @hardwood  = ...ukweli Ce n’est pas si grave...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:At least some smart lawyer pointed out DK's stupidity.
You left out the response.... "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:At least some smart lawyer pointed out DK's stupidity.
You left out the response.... What response? He should be talking to kina Sidika, Hundah and other socialites, coz that is his class, not legal matters. And as you can see REAL lawyers have smoked him out and pointed out his legal incompetence..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:At least some smart lawyer pointed out DK's stupidity.
You left out the response.... What response? He should be talking to kina Sidika, Hundah and other socialites, coz that is his class, not legal matters. And as you can see REAL lawyers have smoked him out and pointed out his legal incompetence.. FYI the Law profession does not require you to face the judge uno kwa uno, the real lawyers are those who make money out of transaction contracts such as merger and acquisitions. If there's a lawyer who went out to insult DK because of his lifestyle then he must be living a very miserable life. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:At least some smart lawyer pointed out DK's stupidity.
You left out the response.... What response? He should be talking to kina Sidika, Hundah and other socialites, coz that is his class, not legal matters. And as you can see REAL lawyers have smoked him out and pointed out his legal incompetence.. FYI the Law profession does not require you to face the judge uno kwa uno, the real lawyers are those who make money out of transaction contracts such as merger and acquisitions. If there's a lawyer who went out to insult DK because of his lifestyle then he must be living a very miserable life. So what are these mergers and acquisitions that he has been handling? Merging Kulei's and arap Moi's loot that was stolen from wanjiku?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Hmmmn wrote:He's Kenya's dumbest lawyer. Has never addressed any court, never handled even a single case. A thief who stole during nyayo era and he dares call others pretty thieves.
borrowed from @hardwood = ...ukweli True... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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maka wrote:Hmmmn wrote:He's Kenya's dumbest lawyer. Has never addressed any court, never handled even a single case. A thief who stole during nyayo era and he dares call others pretty thieves.
borrowed from @hardwood = ...ukweli True... Ata wewe wakili who cannot quote a chapter you are commenting "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:At least some smart lawyer pointed out DK's stupidity.
You left out the response.... What response? He should be talking to kina Sidika, Hundah and other socialites, coz that is his class, not legal matters. And as you can see REAL lawyers have smoked him out and pointed out his legal incompetence.. FYI the Law profession does not require you to face the judge uno kwa uno, the real lawyers are those who make money out of transaction contracts such as merger and acquisitions. If there's a lawyer who went out to insult DK because of his lifestyle then he must be living a very miserable life. So what are these mergers and acquisitions that he has been handling? Merging Kulei's and arap Moi's loot that was stolen from wanjiku? His office is in Nairobi you only need to knock. Do you seriously think he survives on Kulei money? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:maka wrote:Hmmmn wrote:He's Kenya's dumbest lawyer. Has never addressed any court, never handled even a single case. A thief who stole during nyayo era and he dares call others pretty thieves.
borrowed from @hardwood = ...ukweli True... Ata wewe wakili who cannot quote a chapter you are commenting  Do you rem this... http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/43579possunt quia posse videntur
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