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KenolKobil FY 2012 substrata loss of 9b!
jerry
#191 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54:43 PM
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the deal wrote:
NSE has lost 5.3% since touching 5030. Support seen at 4,700 but KK has found support at 9 bob. If I was a trader I would be going in and ride the upcoming relief rally.

Good advice.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
mwekez@ji
#192 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:12:58 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
WTH, in year 2012, executives exercised their options at a weighted average price of KES 3.42. .... KES 3.42!!!


.... and Segman has options totalling 4% of the company, that will place him as top 6 shareholder!!!
FUNKY
#193 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:06:18 PM
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VituVingiSana
#194 Posted : Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:32:20 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2013/04/vivo-wants-kprl-shut-over-inefficiency/
KK has ben saying that for years. Let's see if & when KK will pursue the cases against KPRL & KPC under the new regime.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwekez@ji
#195 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 10:36:03 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
WTH, in year 2012, executives exercised their options at a weighted average price of KES 3.42. .... KES 3.42!!!


.... and Segman has options totalling 4% of the company, that will place him as top 6 shareholder!!!


Aint this a way of segman stealing the company from shareholders. ... Any investor will tell how expensive it is to buy significant shareholding in KK yet segman is getting there at a steal of cKES 3.42 for the shares!!!
Ericsson
#196 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 10:37:28 AM
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stabbing the ordinary shareholders through the back.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#197 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 10:55:32 AM
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mwekezaji, it pays to be a manager;-). I expect this form of compensation to gain more prevalence in Kenyan markets as we go along.
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VituVingiSana
#198 Posted : Friday, April 26, 2013 11:20:49 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
WTH, in year 2012, executives exercised their options at a weighted average price of KES 3.42. .... KES 3.42!!!


.... and Segman has options totalling 4% of the company, that will place him as top 6 shareholder!!!


Aint this a way of segman stealing the company from shareholders. ... Any investor will tell how expensive it is to buy significant shareholding in KK yet segman is getting there at a steal of cKES 3.42 for the shares!!!
They are options given to him in lieu of cash compensation. I prefer he buys rather than get options BUT it beats cash compensation as he can feel the pain if KK under-performs. With the options, he is probably looking for the highest possible buyout too!

Watch him in 2013 when he pushes for better results. And I suspect KK will be back as a bride in 2014.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
tom_boy
#199 Posted : Thursday, May 02, 2013 4:16:44 PM
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Someone please explain these hedging losses to me. Do they represent a real cash output for the business or are they just accounting figures representing a profit foregone ( by virtue of buying fuel higher than was necessary).
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
Jamani
#200 Posted : Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:09:41 PM
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At Tom_boy.....wiki defines it as follows

A hedge is an investment position intended to offset potential losses/gains that may be incurred by a companion investment. In simple language, a hedge is used to reduce any substantial losses/gains suffered by an individual or an organization.

Hedging fuel consumption
Main article: Fuel hedging
Airlines use futures contracts and derivatives to hedge their exposure to the price of jet fuel. They know that they must purchase jet fuel for as long as they want to stay in business, and fuel prices are notoriously volatile. By using crude oil futures contracts to hedge their fuel requirements (and engaging in similar but more complex derivatives transactions), Southwest Airlines was able to save a large amount of money when buying fuel as compared to rival airlines when fuel prices in the U.S. rose dramatically after the 2003 Iraq war and Hurricane Katrina.
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