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After reading the sunday nation-Ngilu may go for treatment in Europe
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#21 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 8:16:19 AM
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i have always said that both MK and RAO are the most corrupt ..... if not so ...their lieutenants would not dare be!!!!!

Wote washindwe!!
God gave me the power to make wealth ... Blessed the work of my hands & enabled be A SELF MADE BILLIONAIRE ...... TO GOD THE FATHER OF MY LORD JESUS CHRIST; BE THE GLORY NOW & FOREVER MORE!

nostoppingthis
#22 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 8:23:02 AM
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@Bepari, you really don't look at things wholesome, anything has to go down to RAO regardless..it puts a smile on your face. There are two sides of a coin...

That said, hapa Ngilu amepatikana! companies all registered in 2008. She needs to understand that the problem is not how many boreholes she sunk, it is inflated prices and nepotism/tribalism....if those contracts were competitive, she'd at least have a slim chance...
@Mjuaji, hapo umenena, lakini pia kama they are in-charge, they surely have to put in an effort to find out the bad deals. I'm sure some of this corrupt deals shock them!
@Guka, itabidi RAO atoke nyuma ya CN
Robinhood
#23 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 8:32:33 AM
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@Famooz, who said the PM was commenting on Ngilu bila details?
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
Fundaah
#24 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 8:55:41 AM
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It simple , Ngilu should have resigned the day before yesterday ....... evidence is too incriminating....Her stay is just making things worse for her
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
bepari
#25 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:00:56 AM
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@nostopin', Are you one of those people that jump when RAO is mentioned? i didn't say he is behind ngilu,he said that himself and if she is corrupt,where does that leave him? the fact is RAO and by extention ODM want us to believe that they are the alternative gov't going forward, since Obako's gov't was/is corrupt,how different will RAO's?
yes i do cringe when RAO is touted as a reformist. watoto wa nyoka ni ...
if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
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#26 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:01:35 AM
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Mpenzi wrote:
How fast we forget!

Ngilu has a very good track record of corruption.

Ngilu, as Minister for Health, is the one who got her daughter's NGO to organise a govt-sponsored AIDS conference in 2003 - questions were raised about how the money for the conference was spent. See:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200403150121.html

She then appointed her friend as the Director of KNH - Dr Florence Musau - Musau was hounded out of office for corruption around 2005 but in 2009 Ngilu appointed her a director of the National Water Conservation and Pipeline Corporation. See:

http://www.kenyalaw.org/..._gazette.php?title=3239


...NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL IMPUNITY!!! ANYONE, ANYONE, WHOEVER IT IS, THAT CAUSED THE SPILLING ON INNOCENT BLOOD IN THE PEV WILL DEFINITELY PAY FOR IT...WHETHER BY PLANE CRASHES, CAR ACCIDENTS, BULLETS FROM DEJECTED COPS, BULLETS FROM MUNGIKS, KACC & THE COURTS, CENSOR BY PARLIAMENT, BLOOD CLOTS FROM HEAD INJURIES, MAKABURI THEFT, ROCKS FALLING FROM THE BLUE SKY OR EVEN OCAMPO..... MUNGU SI ADHUMANI!!!
Kaigangio
#27 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:03:43 AM
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@ fundaah,

you are a die hard mama rainbow supporter...you should appologise to mwangi kiunjuri for opening your eyes...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Njung'e
#28 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:11:53 AM
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@Famooz,
C'mon dear....Not my words rather....The PM is on record,"Nitasimama nyuma yako"...lol
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#29 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:20:10 AM
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Nepotism and corruptin
...Is nepotism a form of corruption? I think there is a distict difference btn the two. What do u think. Did she steal? No.. Did she show favouritsm? YES! So, we should accuse Ngilu of nepotism but not corruption.
kadonye
#30 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:24:33 AM
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This latest dossier has silenced Mama Rainbow.Kwa nini hajitetei?

Say something CharitySad

You can say that the companies awarded the tenders were the most deserving since they're owned by youthful entrepreneurs na hizo zingine ni za wazee.smile

On overpricing of commodities: cheap is expensive, right?Laughing out loudly
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
Sober
#31 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:26:09 AM
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Mpenzi wrote:
How fast we forget!

Ngilu has a very good track record of corruption.

Ngilu, as Minister for Health, is the one who got her daughter's NGO to organise a govt-sponsored AIDS conference in 2003 - questions were raised about how the money for the conference was spent. See:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200403150121.html

She then appointed her friend as the Director of KNH - Dr Florence Musau - Musau was hounded out of office for corruption around 2005 but in 2009 Ngilu appointed her a director of the National Water Conservation and Pipeline Corporation. See:

http://www.kenyalaw.org/..._gazette.php?title=3239


Applause Applause Applause good stuff.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Fundaah
#32 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:28:51 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
@ fundaah,

you are a die hard mama rainbow supporter...you should appologise to mwangi kiunjuri for opening your eyes...



I am a die hard of anyone with intention of uplift the lives of Kenyans....I am not a die hard of anyone who is corrupt....If you are corrupt... dont expect an iota of support from me .....you are on your own...Whether you are my father or Mother....
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
kadonye
#33 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:29:01 AM
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Magigi wrote:
Nepotism and corruptin
...Is nepotism a form of corruption? I think there is a distict difference btn the two. What do u think. Did she steal? No.. Did she show favouritsm? YES! So, we should accuse Ngilu of nepotism but not corruption.


Nepotism is corruption.Awarding your family contracts and giving them leeway to overprice supplies is definitely corruption
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
Sober
#34 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:30:02 AM
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Robinhood wrote:
@Famooz, who said the PM was commenting on Ngilu bila details?


when RAO was defending her, not even ngilu knew how much info that was there to incriminate her. he will never do that this week.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Magigi
#35 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:35:10 AM
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@Kadonye
...And suppose you just award the contracts and jobs...No overpricing...Is that still corruption?
...and by the way you were supposed to have PROPOSED!!! How did it go?
Fundaah
#36 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:39:50 AM
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I agree....Ngilu must step aside....now.....

But don't forget to use the same energy in all the other ministries and senior government appointment.....?

Don't forget the KEBs Matter.....

Ambassadors who are relatives to the PM ... and the President .....
Kenyan society is just too rotten ...Shame on you Shame on you

Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
callaspade
#37 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:44:56 AM
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.....i think stepping down is not enough.
....people must go to jail and return the money.
....they should never hold public office thereafter either elective or selective
.....thats how others will learn to keep their "hands in their pockets" when it becomes very tempting to steal.
...otherwise people will continue looting public money and then resign a few billions richer and of-course make a comeback and lie low(ask kimunya and kiraitu for details).
McReggae
#38 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:45:35 AM
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This smeells of high level of IMPUNITY on the part of the Water minister!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
mjuaji wa stocks
#39 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 9:49:01 AM
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callaspade wrote:
.....i think stepping down is not enough.
....people must go to jail and return the money.
....they should never hold public office thereafter either elective or selective
.....thats how others will learn to keep their "hands in their pockets" when it becomes very tempting to steal.
...otherwise people will continue looting public money and then resign a few billions richer and of-course make a comeback and lie low(ask kimunya and kiraitu for details).


you thought and spoken like 10 men.....stepping aside is not enough!!

The guys have taken the money tayari...they are rich...unless washikwe....washtakiwe...warudishe the mbesha....we have already lost.....
God gave me the power to make wealth ... Blessed the work of my hands & enabled be A SELF MADE BILLIONAIRE ...... TO GOD THE FATHER OF MY LORD JESUS CHRIST; BE THE GLORY NOW & FOREVER MORE!

Fundaah
#40 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 10:02:38 AM
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And Kingangi before you praise Mr Kiunjuru soo much .....remember there is a likelihood of greedy blackmail.....
Kiunjiri :'nigawie ama ni seme yote'....

Ngilu : sikupi hata centi moja Ngo'....its my time to eat .. utado?


Then the humbled kiunjuri spills the beans
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