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Deacons IPO.. public share offer?
JabaBoeku
#21 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:19:36 PM
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IPO Price set at 62.50. They only need 1500 shareholders!
http://af.reuters.com/ar...ws/idAFJOE6AG09Y20101117
gathinga
#22 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:49:07 PM
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so who are the brokers for this private placement?
mwanahisa
#23 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:59:19 PM
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I need to see this offer up close and candid! Has anyone seen the Information Memorandum. It does sound enticing on the face of it.
muganda
#24 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:01:00 PM
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Kestrel Capital; prospectus available from tomorrow; launch was today.
Listing in 12 months is ambitious though, too ambitious perhaps.

Let me say also that we need to give @obiero a break man. Judge comments made without prior reference to his other posts.
mwanahisa
#25 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:05:47 PM
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muganda wrote:
Kestrel Capital; prospectus available from tomorrow; launch was today.


Thanks Muganda.
hisah
#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:14:17 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REG_CKoVlb0 - Muchiri's interview on ABN about the Deacons IPO.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
obiero
#27 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:26:52 PM
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@ the deal. R & J Bistro or Calypso. The rice, mussels and polenta in their a la carte is to die for!
@ kadonye. I have nothing against people who wear 'dead man's clothes'. Bt I ask myself, why shld I wear clothes that another person felt, had run their course, and were no longer worthy of being worn!
@ the rest. Deacons has been in Kenya since 1958. I like their range of products and apparently so do others who have kept the company afloat for that length of time.

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
Stealth
#28 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:32:36 AM
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Lets give the man obiero a break and lets get back to the issue mentioned in the title aka DEACONS. Facts n figures thats what we need.
ProverB
#29 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:10:56 AM
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a very nice thread..reduced to discussing obiero.. Sad Sad

NKTmost!
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Surealligator
#30 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:13:01 AM
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@Obiero

Go guy, let them know the truth. We Africans of low intelligence compared to the others killed our cotton industry by allowing in second hand cloths, people lost jobs, poverty multiplied, gangsters became more and someone here dares defend second hand clothes?

Why wont Kenya export second hand shoes, spoons and books to Mexico, US etc.

Kenyans today even buy second hand underwear (Menyereri, Sindilia, Shikilia, Kamata, Bikers, Scooters, socks, kazas, bottom bulger, hip band, slimming belt, Cellulite smoother, boobs cage,....). We buy second hand cars. Soon, we will import second hand food. So, can we simply agree we are the second hand generation?

We even think in a second hand manner. Ati we cannot elect a poor man cauze he will spend more time enriching himself.

The truth, the rich (those who mostly got rich through ill gotten wealth) will device all means to ensure the poor remain poor so that they can have more cheap labour available, more easy to buy voters, more rich-guy worshipers, more boot lickers, ........

Instead of thinking how we can all be rich so that we don't buy second hand cloths, we ask for more cheap things (I agree some second hand cloths have better quality than local products) so that we can save the money for (you name it) beer, sodas, bottled water, quencher, cigarettes and other things that destroy your health.

What was that in the media yesterday? That Kenya has lost 250 billion in the Goldenberg and other scandals. Enough money to kick start Kenya for
the millennium goals and vision 2030. Was it not the rich who were on watch when the money disappeared? Actually, the poor, if he was to steal, would go for small money, the rich have been going for billions. Hallo, its control mechanisms that matter, not whether you are rich or poor.

Deacons IPO is a good idea but why bring it at the same time as KPLC rights.

I have dealt with Muchiri Wahome before at Norfolk towers and Sarit. He is not one of the best in the clothing industry and investment strategy. Actually, he is a short sighted CEO but hardworking.

What matters however are the simple questions you would ask before you throw your money around.

1. Usually, people buy into your company after it has shown ability to generate profits. If Deacons has been making good profits, why has it not used the same to expand quickly before floating the same to the market?

2. Why use other people's funds to prop up the company and then quickly bring it to the stock exchange?

It means, someone wants to call it quits before things are bad.

It also means someone has realized that the NSE has a considerable chunk of blind investors who it can rip from.
Go overdrive in purchasing the goods when there's blood on the streets, expecially if the blood is your own
gladiator
#31 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:34:07 AM
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Anybody have a softcopy of the IM(information memorandum)? Please upload to a fileshare and post the link. I would like to scrutinise the details of the deal.
mwanahisa
#32 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:15:31 AM
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Mainat, I see you are in the house. You have been lost a while. We (I)miss your contributions.
Mainat
#33 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:17:34 AM
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Very interested in the PO. Its quite unique in that they are actually publicising what is essentially a private placement.
Apart from getting a view of the numbers, I only have only two queries:
Why are they doing a PO now when they intend to list soon? Answer-Equity did something similar in 2004 before listing in 2006.
Are they issuing new shares or are some shareholders running off? Key question for me.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
ProverB
#34 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:21:37 AM
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Mainat wrote:
Very interested in the PO. Its quite unique in that they are actually publicising what is essentially a private placement.
Apart from getting a view of the numbers, I only have only two queries:
Why are they doing a PO now when they intend to list soon? Answer-Equity did something similar in 2004 before listing in 2006.
Are they issuing new shares or are some shareholders running off? Key question for me.


hey!!! NIce to see..or rather READ from you!!! Welcom back.
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Mpenzi
#35 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:22:35 AM
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Mainat wrote:
Very interested in the PO. Its quite unique in that they are actually publicising what is essentially a private placement.
Apart from getting a view of the numbers, I only have only two queries:
Why are they doing a PO now when they intend to list soon? Answer-Equity did something similar in 2004 before listing in 2006.
Are they issuing new shares or are some shareholders running off? Key question for me.


Mainat - You are misleading Wazuans! The Deacons IPO is very much a public offer and has been approved as such by the CMA. It is not a private placement.

And Equity did not do any public offer prior to listing. What Equity did was a private placement, followed by a bonus issue followed by listing.
Ms Mkenya
#36 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:27:28 AM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
Ithe wa Jimmy is offloading some shares. Anybody have a wee bit more information?


Why would this be a worthwhile investment?
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My 2 cents
#37 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:31:14 AM
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It had become a get rich strategy in Kenya. If you are holding a dud, sell it off to the public through an IPO
Mpenzi
#38 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:35:27 AM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
Ithe wa Jimmy is offloading some shares. Anybody have a wee bit more information?


I doubt that CMA would allow the current shareholders to offload shares when they are doing an IPO. Am almost certain the IPO is subject to the current shareholders being barred from selling/offloading their shares withing the next 5 yrs or so. And similarly being barred from sitting out of the current or any other rights issue.
Magigi
#39 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:39:09 AM
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@Kadonye and Muganda
...If you have never visited any of these outlets, just do it today and you will be surprised how many people shop here especially during month eneds and festive seasons. In December you will not get a place to stand in Mr Price...The prices are so good.

Even when I was earning a very meagre salary, I have always shopped at Deacons...of course it changed to Woolsworth. Their stuff is good quality and fashionable. So dont say Mitumba has to be banned for people to shop there. Kenyans have money and love quality!!!
mwanahisa
#40 Posted : Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:40:43 AM
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On the basis of the information available so far (via the press), it sounds like an OK offer. Nonetheless, we can only make sound conclusions when we see the propspectus/Information memorandum, which hopefully will address the concerns raised by Mainat et al. Hopefully, current shareholders are not bolting!

BTW, I have heard that Baba Jimmy and Total Man own this one jointly, anyone have solid info. on this?
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