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kizee
#11
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Friday, September 04, 2009 8:55:00 PM
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hi all
well the only good things about this pibo is that it shall herald the advent of a bond OTC market in Kenya..very excitin...thats about all thats good about this pibo...the redeemable aspect of the bond makes the de facto coupon of the bond 10.5 pct if my calculations are not flawed..heck even if you were to ignore the fact that the yield is 10.5...the 12.5 coupon means that kengen is trading at 80 basis points above the GOK yield curve? very ambitous in my view...i will giv this one a miss...anyway i wud advise anyone takin it up to seek to punt it as opposed to holdin it to maturity...happy trading otherwise
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Kirethi
#12
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Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:09:00 PM
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this are good investment avenues for investors and more companies should be encouraged to do the same.
For Kengen we will support you so that the power deficit in the country may reduce
Watu wachangamuke
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The General
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Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:08:00 PM
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Kengen PIBO link
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie
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ecstacy
#14
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Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:42:00 AM
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one small thing...average inflation rate is currently at 23.5%!! ....don't tie up a large chunk of your money on this bond. My 2 Cents
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solloh
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Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:09:00 PM
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With negative cashflows how is kengen going to pay the interest on this debt.
12.5% * 15 billion *10 years =18.75 billion over the ten years paid during the first 2 years.
The 15 billion is payable in equal instalments over 6.25 years .That works out to 1.2 billion shs every 6 months.
The projects they are implementing are VERY unlikely to generate this kind of income let alone cashflows.
This bond is what they would call a JUNK bond on wall street. The risks are just too high that the company will find it hard to service the debt.
Last year they paid a dividend of dividend around 2 billion shillings.They are definitely not going to maintain this kind of payout meaning they are going to shaft the shareholders big time.Expect no dividend over the next 4-5 years,maybe only a token payout (0.10 or less even).
One wonders why they did not borrow a part of the money externally,with the current weak shilling and low global interest rates they would have gotten a good deal. The shilling is more likely to appreciate against the dollar than weaken from here.
This is rough analysis and I encourage SKERIANS to criticise and/or correct my back of the envelope calculations.
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Ericks
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Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:59:00 AM
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this is a very good idea especially teh tax free part of the returns,actually with a good project they can repay this amount in lesser time than stipulated... however i dont agree with the projects they are undertaking... as much as this projects can generate capacity of over 3000 mw,its still rain/floods dependent.... if we dont get the el ninos of the day.... chances are that we'll have more rusting shells in the name of power generating plants......
Its just me whatever choice you make in life make sure that you can live with it.
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The General
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Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:16:00 AM
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@ Ericks,
Horizon 1 projects
Hydro -101 Mw
Geothermal-317.5 Mw
Thermal-120 Mw
Wind-5.1 Mw
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Ericks
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Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:12:00 AM
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@ General
This is what i meant and believe me am for this bond big time.... but there are few things am looking at..... the hydro projects a part from the raising of masinga dam and procurement of a third kindaruma unit are all on going.... also the wind project at Ngong hills has been completed.
As for the Geo thermal,olkaria third unit and Eburu which account for 13% of the geothermal projects are ongoing.... but the others (olkaria iv,olkaria i and olkaria i life extension) are undergoing feasibility study.. so until the study turns out positive i might correct myself by saying that for now 50% of these projects are rain dependent... then after the study is complete and positive then 25% of the projects will be rain dependent thus making it a good prospect with or without rain....
Its just me whatever choice you make in life make sure that you can live with it.
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mukiha
#19
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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:12:00 AM
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Should I buy the bond or the company's share?
Or would it be advisable to sell my shares in KENGEN and put the money in the bond?
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The General
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Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:33:00 AM
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@ Mukiha,thats the big question.
@ Kularaha,kindly expound
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