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'Africa is not ready for 3G'
mozenrat
#11 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 10:26:51 AM
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bird_man wrote:
@Selah,copy that.
I don't understand why anyone should be talking about 4G when its so clear that your download speeds can never get to 2.5Mbps (hata ukaamka usiku wa manane).

3G can do 7.2Mbps.....lets first get there before we test 4G!



but I do get 7.2 Mbps.. I've even time it against the size of my downloads.. and I need faster...
Cardinal
#12 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 10:38:39 AM
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bird_man wrote:
@Selah,copy that.
I don't understand why anyone should be talking about 4G when its so clear that your download speeds can never get to 2.5Mbps (hata ukaamka usiku wa manane).

3G can do 7.2Mbps.....lets first get there before we test 4G!



This is very true and apart from the mojor towns in kenya, where 3G is ,its not in other parts of Kenya.

My first Safcom Modem had 7.2 mbps capabilities, a year later they limited it to 3.6 Mbps.

My Question is why?How comes the old E220 Modems displayed 7.2 Mbps and then the new ones 3.6mbps.Safcom????why????
bird_man
#13 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 10:53:31 AM
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Mozenrat.......you do 7.2Mbps?Meaning that if you downloaded a .avi movie of 700Mb it takes you around 97seconds?(1.5mins)?

I don't think so.
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VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 11:07:40 AM
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Celtel was a Mo Ibrahim gig... today there is Bharti... different ballgame!
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mozenrat
#15 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 11:20:59 AM
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bird_man wrote:
Mozenrat.......you do 7.2Mbps?Meaning that if you downloaded a .avi movie of 700Mb it takes you around 97seconds?(1.5mins)?

I don't think so.


Obviously not from beginning to end... but there are significant bursts.. but then again no one said that the rule in Telecomms or in networks generally is to quote average speeds!!!
bird_man
#16 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 11:31:37 AM
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The average speeds I used to get on Bambanet (last time I used it was March 2010) was around 600kbps and around 2Mbps when I woke up at midnight or some ungodly hours. It has never gone past that.I wonder if anyone else has reached these speeds of 7.2Mbps.
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Caveman
#17 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 11:54:57 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Celtel was a Mo Ibrahim gig... today there is Bharti... different ballgame!

True the decision makers have changed.But why should they cry that the 3G license is expensive and then started pouring millions of dollars on a wild goose chase (attempt to be the dominant player). Tena hii kusema 'tariff ni permanent' and we are 'not interested in profit now' does not add up to me- and Kenyans think it is permanent.
Elder
#18 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 12:35:48 PM
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Caveman wrote:
Elder wrote:
This Adult-Love for Safaricom is really embarrassing. While at it why not just open a Makmende/Chuck Norris/Jack Baur thread on Safaricom and Michael Joseph because these two are all knowing and all seeing.

Some years back in my Philosophy class, there was a definition of what an (valid)argument is. @Elder: you remind me of two fallacies to an argument:Denying the antecedent & Straw man fallacies.Please make me understand where 'Makmende/Chuck Norris/Jack Baur' feature in a 3G - 4G vis-a-vis market. Don't upset your name


Ng'ai! You went to a Philosphy class? My philosophy exposure started and ended with "Sophie's World: A Novel About the History of Philosophy" in class 7. I mean I think 'War and Peace' is a Russian Bible. No wonder I can't get what you mean by those 'Aunty Cedar' and 'Strawberry' things.

Caveman wrote:
This is what Celtel said when Safaricom was doing trials and later launching their 3G network. They thought it was a waste of resources and a show of 'Kitambi'.They are now crying that there is a 3G service monopoly in Kenya. Did I hear someone say 'there is no 4G market in Kenya?' Lets all agree that Safaricom wanaona mbele.


But with all those deep thinking I find it strange that you cannot see the connection between my reference to Makmende et al and your statement that 'Lets all agree that Safaricom wanaona mbele' moreso in context of your naive justification for 3G in Kenya. Or is spoon feeding necessary?

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bird_man
#19 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 12:40:11 PM
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Withdrawn.
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Elder
#20 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 12:44:14 PM
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muganda wrote:
Elder wrote:
This Adult-Love for Safaricom is really embarrassing.


Seriouly @Elder, the outright hostIlity and distortion of facts relating to Safaricom in Wazua, I find equally nauseating. The issue is extreme passions - fanaticism or disdain - rendering genuine feedback impossible.



My reading of the first the first post kind of got to me as it appeared that all the discussion of the justification of 4G in Kenya had been reduced to Safaricom wanaona mbele due to what they have done before. The second post seemed to support that position and that taken together with the Safaricom knows best and can do no wrong in other threads influenced my post.

I do agree with you that both extremes are not on and apologise to all who might have found my response extreme.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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