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omega
#21 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:03:55 PM
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If this is the kind of results they could manage with the sugar selling prices at an all time high, and with COMESA safeguard measures expiring in 2012, then the future doesn't look good, does it?
Gatheuzi
#22 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:09:18 PM
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I will say that since both revenues & PBT are up, then the results are not necessarily bad. Tax effect while important shouldn't be considered in isolation.

I would have wanted them to finish the Tarda project by 2012. Let's see how the market will price the stock on Monday.
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#23 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:12:20 PM
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@you'stop,the market will decide that,but looking at those results and with the challanges ahead from production and competition its a sell at current prices.
qw25041985
#24 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:22:49 PM
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There'll be no sell-off on monday. This is the kk of the industrial sector. Its very strong .
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
Horton
#25 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:25:01 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
There'll be no sell-off on monday. This is the kk of the industrial sector. Its very strong .


Qw. Pole man, fantasy market monday, ur going down son...lol
cnn
#26 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:29:50 PM
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@qw, KK is IN the industrial sector.Maybe try asking how many in wazua would buy at current prices after those results,you might get a hint of where it goes from here.
qw25041985
#27 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:33:10 PM
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@horton.Lol. U think i care abt fantasy market. I hav the real deal in the real market . And there'll b no sell-off . Let ment bore u w/ my reasons but there's no sell-off .
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youcan'tstopusnow
#28 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:58:34 PM
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Ai qw. Hata kama ni shorthand. Sometimes we can't follow. I doubt writing full words will 'waste' that much time. Hauongei na dame yako facebooksmile On mumias, price will fall. It will be a miracle if it doesn't. But whether people will get to pick some up below ten, that is another question
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Horton
#29 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:29:50 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Ai qw. Hata kama ni shorthand. Sometimes we can't follow. I doubt writing full words will 'waste' that much time. Hauongei na dame yako facebooksmile On mumias, price will fall. It will be a miracle if it doesn't. But whether people will get to pick some up below ten, that is another question



@ycsun hahaha Applause
VituVingiSana
#30 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:30:03 PM
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@the deal - Nonsense... Mumias gets paid much better than KenGen for electricity...

Higher input costs for supply of electricity will filter down to the consumers...

The main business is SUGAR... & until Kenya reforms the Sugar Act... there is little long-term hope!
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qw25041985
#31 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:56:04 PM
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@y. Its just swagg at its fullest .
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Wa_ithaka
#32 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2010 10:47:44 AM
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Looking at Mumias results, two things stand out:
1)Of its Ksh18bn revenue, only Ksh359m is from cogeneration. Some quacks in the old Sk were saying cogeneration sijui would increase revenue by Ksh1bn per year of sijui even Ksh10bn. Dream on. Mumias is an agricultural stock whose fortunes are linked to the weather.It must get the TARDA project going for any meaningful growth.
2)The Ksh4bn increase in revenue from last mainly came from sugar price increases. Sugar harvesting only increased by a paltry 7%. TARDA is key to Mumias' future.
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guru267
#33 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2010 3:12:48 PM
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first kenya re then safaricom now mumias. WTF!!!!!
@qw... lets face facts... with a dividend yield of 2.9% and a P/E of 13.2 then the market has to offer some sort of punishment because money flows into counters that offer value. and another thing is that mumias will have flat performance next year due to stable sugar prices so why would i as an investor buy.

as an investor with experience i know exactly when to cut my losses and run when it is necessary(like i did with safcom @5.4 and kenya re @13.3) good thing i always sell at a profit becuase i got into mumias at 10bob...

@njunge i've officially crowned you SUGAR MASTER!!! Applause

BYE BYE mumias.....
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Gordon Gekko
#34 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2010 3:30:38 PM
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Got it wrong on this one, got it wrong on KQ, will I bite the dust also with Sasini? Bought all three on the run up to announcement (KQ 54.50, Mumias 12.85, Sasini 13.50) , all seem to have been bad calls--unless Sasini delivers.
the deal
#35 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2010 4:31:25 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Got it wrong on this one, got it wrong on KQ, will I bite the dust also with Sasini? Bought all three on the run up to announcement (KQ 54.50, Mumias 12.85, Sasini 13.50) , all seem to have been bad calls--unless Sasini delivers.


@GG trading on anticipation of good earnings is reckless...on MSC u will bite the dust for sure...be worried of Sasini due to low coffe prices..on KQ sleep well./.
the deal
#36 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2010 4:49:19 PM
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Hahaha @guru u have aulready sold your MSC on the fantansy market...perhaps you should change your investment philosophy...follow the Contrarian....lets buy DTBK....
qw25041985
#37 Posted : Saturday, August 28, 2010 1:46:14 AM
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There's NOTHING wrong w/ Msc . And i shout from the top of my voice there'll be no sell-off come Monday. I see the price holding, coz it'll be foolish 2 say there'll b a rally.
That's the situation come Monday.
@gg . U are definately wrong on sasini but right on KQ and MSC .
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qw25041985
#38 Posted : Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:06:41 AM
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@ Njunge and all MSC haters.please this and forever shut your mouths (No Pun intended) lol .aND U STILL THOUGHT there was goin to be a sell-off.Some dudes even placin orders at Ksh 10.00 ?????????????????????

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Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
sparkly
#39 Posted : Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:42:00 AM
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@GG talking technicals sasini is forming a descending triangle. It will soon break out - downwards. On fundamentals side you know their profits are usually from biological gains. UZA.
Gordon Gekko wrote:
Got it wrong on this one, got it wrong on KQ, will I bite the dust also with Sasini? Bought all three on the run up to announcement (KQ 54.50, Mumias 12.85, Sasini 13.50) , all seem to have been bad calls--unless Sasini delivers.

Life is short. Live passionately.
the deal
#40 Posted : Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:58:46 PM
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@qw what do you base your decision on when buying a stock...a media report or EPS..DIVIDEND...PE..outlook...NAV...my broda sell if u can on Monday...waiting will just be postponding your death...MSC is a HOLD..
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