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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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safcom for life move if u want we dont kea... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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I bought my safcom line at 2,500 and only death can do us part. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/9/2009 Posts: 311
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So is it correct to say that your personal financial decisions are hinged on whether the product you buy is from a listed firm irrespective of price or quality? selah wrote:Jangwa la Jangili wrote:I am sure you buy milk, bread, clothes, pay school fees and rent only to companies listed on the NSE. Correct? If kcc and millbakers ever list guess where I will be buying my bread and milk. The issue here is where you open a shop and start buying from your competitor just because he wants to rebrand while using the easiest route to retain its customer. Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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@Selah, if you go through the VUKA thread, you will find some of the same people claiming to have just crossed to zain forever doing the same in 2008, some of them were retrenched when Zain made losses following its reckless price cutting. Secondly, there is NO economic sense whatsoever in cutting prices to unsustainable levels as some are claiming here, the net effect is negative as to what happened to Zain with retrenchments and losses after their vuka move, destroying a once viable communications company, and making safaricom even more dominant from 70% market to above 80%, expect more problems for Zain, BTW why don't they now change focus to dissing and asking Zain to lower to 2bob to match Scom? Why would one make most of their calls at 3/- instead of 2/- on a much better product overall? This is only going to end up entrenching safaricom as a monopoly for sure. Sadly for Zain, i have not received a single call from Zain since they cut their revenues and i personally do not know a single person who switched. Some may have, but i personally don't know anyone. A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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Jangwa la Jangili wrote:So is it correct to say that your personal financial decisions are hinged on whether the product you buy is from a listed firm irrespective of price or quality?
Obviously not.When I invest in a company most of the time I see its sustainability in the long term. And if you can afford the companys products why channel you money to the competitor just because it want to be the dominant player by using uncompetitive tactics like price war. Safaricom has been consistence on its product offering I cant just dump it because a competitor who has been unreliable over the years offers me goodies. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/6/2006 Posts: 276
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10 things i do not like about zain, telkom and yu...
1.poor customer service
2.poor customer service
3.poor customer service
4.identity crisis (Kencell, celtel, zain)
5.internet infrastructure (lack of)
6.poor dissemination of information about simple things such as voice mail set up
7.limited bouquet of products
8.long queues at the only customer center (zain - only 1 in the CBD) i know..
9.poor customer service
10.poor customer service
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,118 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:My 2 cents wrote:I second your opinion. Bharti Airtel can return to India for all I care. Go Safcom GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So if Bharti returns to India, where should Vodafone return to? Amazing how anything British/white is ok, but if its a third world company...rudi nyumbani...blah blah If Bharti were to exit... safcon would start screwing us at 10/- per minute... And ship 60%+ of profits to UK/abroad... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,118 Location: Nairobi
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fantony wrote:10 things i do not like about zain, telkom and yu...
1.poor customer service
2.poor customer service
3.poor customer service
4.identity crisis (Kencell, celtel, zain)
5.internet infrastructure (lack of)
6.poor dissemination of information about simple things such as voice mail set up
7.limited bouquet of products
8.long queues at the only customer center (zain - only 1 in the CBD) i know..
9.poor customer service
10.poor customer service Except for #4 you just described SufferingCon... The lines at safcon are horrendous too... Pick I&M branch or Westlands branch... #7 Zain has matched all SufferingCon services. See the new menu. And Zap is cheaper... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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VituVingiSana wrote:KulaRaha wrote:My 2 cents wrote:I second your opinion. Bharti Airtel can return to India for all I care. Go Safcom GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So if Bharti returns to India, where should Vodafone return to? Amazing how anything British/white is ok, but if its a third world company...rudi nyumbani...blah blah If Bharti were to exit... safcon would start screwing us at 10/- per minute... And ship 60%+ of profits to UK/abroad... Bharti are not going anywhere. They must be laughing at Safcom the way they reacted. They know safcom recognizes them. This is the 1st time safcom has been shaken. Before they never used to be much bothered.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 119 Location: Nairobi
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I am totally water melon...I receive with my green sim and call with my red sim.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2007 Posts: 336
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@selah, I am not a safcon share holder but truth be said,mimi sitoki hata zain ikiwa bure.No justification for my adamant decision. Advice is like snow.The softer it lands the harder is sticks.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/4/2010 Posts: 93
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VituVingiSana wrote:KulaRaha wrote:My 2 cents wrote:I second your opinion. Bharti Airtel can return to India for all I care. Go Safcom GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So if Bharti returns to India, where should Vodafone return to? Amazing how anything British/white is ok, but if its a third world company...rudi nyumbani...blah blah If Bharti were to exit... safcon would start screwing us at 10/- per minute... And ship 60%+ of profits to UK/abroad... @VituVingiSana I agree with you, those wishing Bharti does not sustain the low rates should be thanking Zain for they are now enjoying lower rates at least for a month courtesy of Zain's bold move. If Bharti quits, we will back to monopoly and who suffers, you and me. As you hold on to hardline positions, think of the consequences. The competition however should make business sense else no need of investing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/10/2007 Posts: 1,587
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The competition will be beneficial to shareholders unless one company opts out. We will have low calling rates and a lot of loyality promotions to retain customers. They will be a lot of innovation.
The next price war will be fought on data; read 3G, 4G. That is when things will be exciting
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/29/2007 Posts: 948
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/6/2009 Posts: 108 Location: nairobi
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just curious,do all BAT shareholders smoke? 'majengo sirudi tena' if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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Quote:ust curious,do all BAT shareholders smoke?
'majengo sirudi tena' If you are a wazuan/INVESTOR smoker and you dont own a piece of BAT.Man what a waste. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/7/2010 Posts: 282 Location: Nairobi
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When Zain 'table' introduced vuka, we thought that was the end... But years down the line, Zain's market share dwindled.
The low calling rates are welcome. But if Zain wants market share, they better make better product propositions.
Suppose, all other network operators respond and lower their rates below Zain's? I think they are fighting a losing battle.
At least they should have just lowered the rates without sounding a war cry.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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groupielove wrote:I am totally water melon...I receive with my green sim and call with my red sim.  i like the way you are thinking. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/23/2009 Posts: 19
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 I think sometimes its a matter of believing in yourself, your product. It must be a very trying moment for Safcon, they should not lose focus and let their products lose the confidence that people have entrusted upon them overtime. If you're good, faithful people will stick with you. For Zain, let them not celebrate too early, this is a long haul.For now, I'm retaining Safaricom.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,118 Location: Nairobi
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I was disgusted by Watermelons during the Referendum campaign lakini now I am all for them! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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