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JUBILEE HOLDINGS POSTS 69% RISE IN PROFIT
PKoli
#21 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 2:42:34 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
Bargain hunters will hold the price .


In the long run Jubilee has large swings. It could easily move to 140 and then bounce back to 200. Aga khan shares are very illiquid and so often desperate sellers will give them at a throw away price.
VituVingiSana
#22 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 2:53:28 PM
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PKoli wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
Bargain hunters will hold the price .


In the long run Jubilee has large swings. It could easily move to 140 and then bounce back to 200. Aga khan shares are very illiquid and so often desperate sellers will give them at a throw away price.

Aga Khan firms are among the best... well-managed...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
PKoli
#23 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 2:57:49 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
PKoli wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
Bargain hunters will hold the price .


In the long run Jubilee has large swings. It could easily move to 140 and then bounce back to 200. Aga khan shares are very illiquid and so often desperate sellers will give them at a throw away price.

Aga Khan firms are among the best... well-managed...


I do not dispute the fact that the firms are well managed. Just cautioned that they are illiquid and when one is patient you come make a kill. Look at NMG, Jubilee and DTK, they hardly move significant shares in a given day. Only lately, due to good results have we seen DTK moving huge volumes. This will not last
VituVingiSana
#24 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 3:01:46 PM
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PKoli wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
PKoli wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
Bargain hunters will hold the price .


In the long run Jubilee has large swings. It could easily move to 140 and then bounce back to 200. Aga khan shares are very illiquid and so often desperate sellers will give them at a throw away price.

Aga Khan firms are among the best... well-managed...


I do not dispute the fact that the firms are well managed. Just cautioned that they are illiquid and when one is patient you come make a kill. Look at NMG, Jubilee and DTK, they hardly move significant shares in a given day. Only lately, due to good results have we seen DTK moving huge volumes. This will not last

I agree... and they have done well for me over the years especially those bought during Rights...

I was too young to buy the IPOs (except TPS)... but any shares I bought during the Rights have paid off handsomely... Patience is key...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#25 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 8:25:15 PM
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i think i should add some TPS to my portifolio...they once talked of Serena Mozambique...
Horton
#26 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 8:35:01 PM
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the deal wrote:
i think i should add some TPS to my portifolio...they once talked of Serena Mozambique...



The Deal....here's one for ya, why doncha stock up on jub,which is cheap and get the benefits of TPS by extension? Jub is cheap! TPS is not!

hmmmm...I sound like a JUB share salesman LOOL
PKoli
#27 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 8:40:34 PM
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Horton wrote:
the deal wrote:
i think i should add some TPS to my portifolio...they once talked of Serena Mozambique...



The Deal....here's one for ya, why doncha stock up on jub,which is cheap and get the benefits of TPS by extension? Jub is cheap! TPS is not!

hmmmm...I sound like a JUB share salesman LOOL


I thought there is more growth prospects in TPS due to tourism increase. The Rwanda and Uganda acquisitions (I am not sure) will boost their earnings
Horton
#28 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 8:54:05 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Horton wrote:
the deal wrote:
i think i should add some TPS to my portifolio...they once talked of Serena Mozambique...



The Deal....here's one for ya, why doncha stock up on jub,which is cheap and get the benefits of TPS by extension? Jub is cheap! TPS is not!

hmmmm...I sound like a JUB share salesman LOOL


I thought there is more growth prospects in TPS due to tourism increase. The Rwanda and Uganda acquisitions (I am not sure) will boost their earnings


I should have elaborated, I meant Jubilee own 6.5% of TPS on its own. Also from TPS top ten shareholders, there isPDM & IPS, where JUB has substantial shareholding....so i was suggesting buying JUB which are so much cheaper and by extension(or virtue if u will) of JUB owning so many shares of the company...again my views only..could be wrong...
Horton
#29 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 8:58:34 PM
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BTW, does anyone know when deadline for the banks/insurance companies is for the paid up capital top up? ie the 1BN for banks and 500m for consolidated insurance companies?

Coz (again with my JUB sales pitch, im sorry chaps) Its got paid up of 50Mn * 5Bob=250Mn. Its gotta raise that by another 250Mn. Easiest way for a company with JUBs Bal sheet. Bonus 1:1 and hey presto....
sparkly
#30 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 9:04:03 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Horton wrote:
the deal wrote:
i think i should add some TPS to my portifolio...they once talked of Serena Mozambique...



The Deal....here's one for ya, why doncha stock up on jub,which is cheap and get the benefits of TPS by extension? Jub is cheap! TPS is not!

hmmmm...I sound like a JUB share salesman LOOL


I thought there is more growth prospects in TPS due to tourism increase. The Rwanda and Uganda acquisitions (I am not sure) will boost their earnings

Serena should be a fav of fundamentalists. Kenya is a tourism and agricultural country, so you should be invested in either.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:34:01 PM
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guru, what were you worried about? Investors seem to be responding well to the brilliant results. People are getting on board. Don't worry about dividends
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
PKoli
#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:31:47 PM
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Horton wrote:
BTW, does anyone know when deadline for the banks/insurance companies is for the paid up capital top up? ie the 1BN for banks and 500m for consolidated insurance companies?

Coz (again with my JUB sales pitch, im sorry chaps) Its got paid up of 50Mn * 5Bob=250Mn. Its gotta raise that by another 250Mn. Easiest way for a company with JUBs Bal sheet. Bonus 1:1 and hey presto....


It must be close since CiC announced in today's dailies EGM to incease paid up capital.
KIRTI
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:52:34 PM
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For Bank Minimum core capital required 700m as on 31.12.2011 & 1000m as on 31.12.2012. Core capital means permenant sharholders equity in the form of issued and fully paid up shares of common stock.
qw25041985
#34 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:12:22 PM
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@kirti. Welcome.
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PKoli
#35 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:25:01 PM
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KIRTI wrote:
For Bank Minimum core capital required 700m as on 31.12.2011 & 1000m as on 31.12.2012. Core capital means permenant sharholders equity in the form of issued and fully paid up shares of common stock.


Welcome, Kirti. There is talk that minimum core capital for the insurance companies too will go up higher than what had been initially set
Horton
#36 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:29:29 PM
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PKoli wrote:
KIRTI wrote:
For Bank Minimum core capital required 700m as on 31.12.2011 & 1000m as on 31.12.2012. Core capital means permenant sharholders equity in the form of issued and fully paid up shares of common stock.


Welcome, Kirti. There is talk that minimum core capital for the insurance companies too will go up higher than what had been initially set


500mn....for consolidated insurers...cant seem to find the date though
PKoli
#37 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:32:32 PM
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Horton wrote:
PKoli wrote:
KIRTI wrote:
For Bank Minimum core capital required 700m as on 31.12.2011 & 1000m as on 31.12.2012. Core capital means permenant sharholders equity in the form of issued and fully paid up shares of common stock.


Welcome, Kirti. There is talk that minimum core capital for the insurance companies too will go up higher than what had been initially set


500mn....for consolidated insurers...cant seem to find the date though


There is talk that it is likely to go up to 1B. So insurance firms will have to merge or be bought
Horton
#38 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:41:08 PM
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Ermm...think i was wrong earlier, deadline has already lapsed.

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guru267
#39 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:57:33 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru, what were you worried about? Investors seem to be responding well to the brilliant results. People are getting on board. Don't worry about dividends

I hope it doesn't disappoint... I've placed a huge bet on this counter and up only 18%
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#40 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:20:10 AM
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Jubilee already has 1bn+ as its Shareholder Funds... It's a simple matter to convert Revenue Reserves to 'Ordinary Share Capital' if needed though I see not reason for that...

I think folks are reading it wrong... The minimum amount is probably a risk-adjusted Share Capital + Non-distributable Reserves + 'Blocked' Revenue Reserves...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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