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ENERGY CRISIS SITUATION
zizzi
#21 Posted : Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:35:05 PM
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Did you get this from the Genghis KenGen report?
fuchu
#22 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:06:11 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
@Sports,
Laughing out loudly You cracked my ribs..You'll pay for this!!....Bure weweLaughing out loudly smile .


@Fuchu,
That's quite some information and thanks.Some questions if you won't mind.

1.Why should it take 7 years to harness the potential of Menengai (A mere 1000MW) (There is no sense of urgency in Africa i guess)

2.After harnessing the steam,why should GDC sell to IPPs,who in turn will put up the plants,who will sell to KPLc,who will sell to consumers??...Ngai!(I guess this is called a vicious circle).Why not generate and sell to KPLC directly?


@ Guka
Its all in the planning. Proper planning on
i) drilling of wells - this is expensive, risky and time consuming.
ii) project financing - donor funding complicates time period for execution of projects. they've got very many conditions, criteria etc that have to be met at every stage before funds are released
iii) power station building. it'll take a minimum of 3 years to build a power plant - steam lines, generators etc.

On selling of steam to IPPs, its a matter of project risk. Do we have all the funds we need to avail to GDC to do the drilling, build and operate power plants. We don't and thus we need someone else to invest in the power plants. GDC will specialise on prospecting for and generation of steam, while you and I can invest in a power plant.

The issue is: At what cost does KPLC buy power from IPPs? Is there a politician involved?
infinity061
#23 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:08:39 AM
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Thanks for the info.
Cde Monomotapa
#24 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:42:30 AM
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@fuchu badala ya story mob let me summarize that GDC is purely an exploration company. Enery sector reforms recc.d separation of the elec. energy cycle. That is how KPLC un-bundled Kengen.
mukiha
#25 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:56:11 PM
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hisah wrote:
http://www.angelnexus.com/o/web/25256

Yeah; right!
See this as well: http://stockgumshoe.com/...httime-solar-energy.html
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#26 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:00:20 PM
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mukiha wrote:
[quote=hisah]http://www.angelnexus.com/o/web/25256

Yeah; right!
See this as well: http://stockgumshoe.com/...ttime-solar-energy.html[/quote]
and BTW: how will Henry convert solar power into electricity to be stored in his NiMH battery? solar panels are only about 7.5% efficient....
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Mercie
#27 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:56:52 AM
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mukiha wrote:
mukiha wrote:
[quote=hisah]http://www.angelnexus.com/o/web/25256

Yeah; right!
See this as well: http://stockgumshoe.com/...ttime-solar-energy.html[/quote]
and BTW: how will Henry convert solar power into electricity to be stored in his NiMH battery? solar panels are only about 7.5% efficient....


7.5% for now, can we trust Moore's law for solar power?

http://wfs.org/content/s...solar-powers-moores-law

With 20-41% efficiencies reported in the lab, how long will take before such cells hit the market? Esp after looking at the exponential growth of technologies. Cost?
Go borrow vessels!
mukiha
#28 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:28:33 PM
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It's been 7.5% since the 1980s! And the lab modules have also been at around 20%. the idealised theoretical limit is about 29% - this is the absolute limit for silicon cells.

As far as I can see; the silicon based photo-voltaic solar cell will take us nowhere! It is too expensive and too inefficient.

There are better ways of trapping solar energy: e.g. wait for the sun to heat the air and cause winds to blow; then trap the wind... oh, that's called wind energy.

Ask yourself this: why are they setting up a wind farm in the sunny Turkana region instead of a solar farm?
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Genghis Khan
#29 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:08:36 PM
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mukiha wrote:
mukiha wrote:
[quote=hisah]http://www.angelnexus.com/o/web/25256

Yeah; right!
See this as well: http://stockgumshoe.com/...ttime-solar-energy.html[/quote]
and BTW: how will Henry convert solar power into electricity to be stored in his NiMH battery? solar panels are only about 7.5% efficient....


How LOOOONG was that slideshow? I didn't make it all the way.

When I tried to force-close, it hanged my internet explorer & eventually shut down all my other tabs!!! For a moment I thought i had a virus.

SCAM. Does anyone visit that site more than once?
"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
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mukiha
#30 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:22:09 PM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
mukiha wrote:
mukiha wrote:
[quote=hisah]http://www.angelnexus.com/o/web/25256

Yeah; right!
See this as well: http://stockgumshoe.com/...ttime-solar-energy.html[/quote]
and BTW: how will Henry convert solar power into electricity to be stored in his NiMH battery? solar panels are only about 7.5% efficient....


How LOOOONG was that slideshow? I didn't make it all the way.

When I tried to force-close, it hanged my internet explorer & eventually shut down all my other tabs!!! For a moment I thought i had a virus.

SCAM. Does anyone visit that site more than once?


That site is just hype with no content!
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
segemia
#31 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 11:31:41 AM
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@ fuchu or kaiganjo

Could you fellows tell us why we are going to be handed over this monster or uninvited guest by the name Power Supply Management Programme.
I see here that it is almost 2 years since this serious power outage started and 2 years down the line we are back to where we were!!!
What the hell is going on???
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