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Seller Beware!! Funny But True.
kyt
#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:02:54 PM
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Which bank bwana? Toboa!!
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2012
#12 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:32:58 PM
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I honestly don't understand how a bankers cheque leaf can just be stolen. Isn't it in somebody's custody (preferably a Manager)?
Please name and shame this bank as it is grossly incompetent and careless or it's running a cleverly orchestrated scam.

BBI will solve it
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Intelligentsia
#13 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:27:28 PM
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I dont understand why some guys are so intent on the Bank being named - show me a bank not only in Kenya but the entire world that has not had an experience with fraudsters in one way or the other and I will show u both a pink elephant and an honest politician.

@2012 - If your chq book is stolen it can be transformed into a bankers' chq very easily. Heck, they don't even need to steal a leaf -just make a whole chq book with the Bank's logo emblazoned thereon! Fraudsters/Counterfeiters are becoming so good even experts are being fooled. And so bold. Just last yr (Q4) a man approached a bank to open an account and he had all the docs.Then he produced his ID, which stated his sex was FEMALE. Did I say he was a man? Yes he was. Yet his ID read female! The bank staff refused to open the a/c, pointing to the anomaly.Guess what, the guy was back WITHIN 1 HR with the same ID now correctly reading MALE. Yes, within 1 hr.The staff promptly informed cops (Banking Fraud Investigation Unit)but he sensed his ruse was up and disappeared faster than you could say 'Ocampo is too quiet.'
So collusion of course does happen in any org (FPE funds,huh?)and banks are no exception. Sometimes even fraudsters will ask you to confirm on phone with the bank (using your own tel directory!) and you release goods after positive confirmation only to realise later what a sucker you have been - dont ask me how they manipulate the tel lines.

So: never release goods against bankers chqs, deposit in a/c and wait for it to clear. Mukiha is right, if its so urgent ask the buyer to RTGS u the cash (same day) and that it will be strictly delivery on receipt of cash. A sucker is born every minute.Dont be one.
kissedxx
#14 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2010 2:31:28 PM
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That's a sad story.. I don't trust anyone. Better wait for the chq to clear before releasing goods. I would rather the biz goes if they don't want to wait those few days only..
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reithi
#15 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:01:52 PM
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I was almost conned the same way last year.

The guy gave me a cheque from CBA. As a precaution, I took it to the bank to confirm its authenticity. The bank declined to confirm it was geniune on policy grounds. I banked the cheque but did not to release the goods. No prizes for guessing what happened to the cheque.

The guy never returned to claim the goods for obvious reasons though I still have his photo which was secretly taken by my employee.

GOLDEN RULE: Only release goods once the cheque(s) has cleared in the account.
Djinn
#16 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:14:27 AM
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@new-farer - I'd rather have the buyer deposit the cash into my account - in fact I did that sometime last year - though my main concern was fake currency....

Personally I make no distinction between banks and fraudsters.....with all due respect to any bankers on SK, they belong in the inner ring of the seveth circle of hell...see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)

Its the same difference between Al Qaeda and the US Government...the latter does the same except under a flag...

Zakumi
#17 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:28:09 PM
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@Inteligentsia,wah! that is deadly,I think we Kenyans are hot on the heels of our Naija brothers when it comes to cono-graphy...its hard to trust identities nowadays,these people have gone to the extent of even faking deaths.Just the other day a client told me of how he was conned of 980k.But since he knew the real Identity of the cornartist,he pursued him with all his might.

The conman, in bid to shake off the nagging victim,paid up for an obituary advert in a local daily,complete with the step by step program up to his 'burial' in Langata.Just to make sure the death looked real the conman took an unclaimed body in the morgue and took it for burial in the cemetry.The victim felt pacified abit but was later shaken when he later learned that everything had been stage-managed.I personally felt that a transaction to some extend needs to be prayed for,coz any1 can be conered.

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kadonye
#18 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:05:19 PM
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This is scary but informative.I'll never trust any money not in my a/c. @Zakumi, ur 2nd story is mo hilarious n scary than the 1st
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kadonye
#19 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:08:07 PM
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@ZAKUMI,i agree, one needs to pray before transacting.These con artistes aren't running out of tricks
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
akowally
#20 Posted : Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:11:45 AM
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Good to always be careful and exercise a lot of wisdom when transacting...truth be told, anyone can be conned...prayer is key in everything
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