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sparkly
#11 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:08:49 PM
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@IFA i agree that it is prudent to diversify. The offshore funds available now are however structured with the developed countries in mind. Many originate in US but are resident in the tax havens. They invest in the emerging economies to diversify the risks faced by investors in the developed economies. The offshore investments are rated as riskier even than small and mid caps of home economies. A huge factor is transaction costs passed on to investor eg tax structuring, admin, compliance with foreign country investment regulations and the costs of international due diligence on investments. As i noted those same funds will come and buy stocks at the nse! Factoring above, if you pick your basket at the nse well you will outperform even the best run offshore fund especially if your corpus is small.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:55:38 AM
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Personally,i have invested offshore.the returns are good.even during the crisis,my portfolio remained positive at 15%.the beauty about it is that the information available is superb and there are many funds to choose from with various risk classes.
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anasazi
#13 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:07:37 AM
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@IFA, what's your take on the whole dollar vs euro thing?
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:21:28 AM
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I gather that the euro will replace the dollar as the reserve currency... however i wonder how soon it will happen.
mturi
#15 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:47:07 AM
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Marko - is this return in Kshs, USD, Euro, GBP and is this return annualised or since inception return. When I looked at Provident website, the annualised rates were below 15% but some had since inception rates of even 87%. Again your currency of investment matters especially with regard to how the exchange rates will move in the future based on your holding period (i.e. when you intend to redeem your units, timing of distributions if any etc).
IFA
#16 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:53:43 AM
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@alvaro-1,the euro will outperform the dollar.according to our analysis,this could begin to take effect in a yr's time.@Sparkly,the fund hses are actually buying our local stocks.Franklin Templeton currently has safaricom and EABL shares in their frontier market fund but that should not stop you from investing offshore!the funds are giving us an avenue to invest in other economies around the world.For instance there is a fund that exclusively invests in the Asian continent,latin america,europe e.t.c Most of us dont av the facilities to go and invest in those countries on our own so as a start,ad rather build up my funds thru an established fund house and still enjoy the same services.
IFA
#17 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:55:26 AM
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@mturi,as per our valuations,the portfolios are valued in the currency u invested in.offshore is the way to go!
mdosi
#18 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:22:29 PM
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This is a great discussion you have here and as someone who does offshore investments, i concur this is the way to go guys. As i had said in another post here earlier, the returns a very good and most importantly the investments a very secure. In fact we have clients who have made 50% returns from Jan 2009 and this is the time when everyone thought you can't make any money offshore.Anyone interested can email me for more details.
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IFA
#19 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:14:39 PM
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@mdosi,its good to know that you are an offshore investor and have got good returns.Franklin Templeton which is my major fund manager has never disappointed me and am yet to hear of an unhappy investor.just check out this link and see how well some funds have performed.http://www.franklintempleton.lu/lux/jsp/funds/performance.jsp
akowally
#20 Posted : Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:22:00 PM
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Very insightful ideas from IFA and IFA2...
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