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Carbacid Investments FY 2020
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2020 8:28:23 PM
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Monk wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Monk wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winmak wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
winmak wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Quality firm.
Quality Management.


VVS convinced me to board this bus...


Boarded at what price?

Circa 10... a while back pre Covid
If I had any 20/20 inkling on COVID, I would have gone all cash and bought BTC! Laughing out loudly

Hang in there.

Meanwhile a 7% dividend is sweet.


DY of 3.77% for me. I've held this counter since 2010. Share price has dropped significantly since then. Consistent dividends though have whittled down my capital loss to 15%. I don't plan on selling.


Have you factored in bonus share issue and share split done in 2013 to get your adjusted purchase price.


@Ericsson Yes, I did - ABP 14.51 after 1:2 bonus in 2013 and 1:5 split in 2014. I bought more in 2014/2015 when it was in the 20's, so my current ABP is 18.55 :(
Was it on my "Buy List" in the KES 20s?
I certainly like it at current levels but I am out of cash. I got a KenRe dividend Juzi but I also need/want cash on hand for expenses.

*Not directly related to CARB

The net dividends in 2020 (& going into 2021) might be lower than 2019.

I expect dividends from Centum (1.20), C&G (0.80), CARB (0.70), DTB (0.60) and Kenya Re (0.10-0.25) in 2021. Jubilee may pay a Special Dividend (or a higher dividend vs 2020) in 2021.

I expect reduced dividends from I&M (not sure how much), Stanbic, SCBK, WTK and KAPC too Sad ,

I do not expect Unga, Longhorn, FTG and other banks (NCBA, Equity) I have to pay a dividend.
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Ericsson
#12 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:03:16 AM
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Carbacid to acquire BOC Kenya
https://mobile.twitter.c...1840597917921280/photo/1
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Balaa
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 10:27:40 AM
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Sad [quote=Ericsson]Carbacid to acquire BOC Kenya
https://mobile.twitter.c...840597917921280/photo/1[/quote]

When the hunter becomes the hunted.
If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense
McGill
#14 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 11:11:42 AM
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[quote=Ericsson]Carbacid to acquire BOC Kenya
https://mobile.twitter.c...840597917921280/photo/1[/quote]

But that acquisition price d'oh!
tandich
#15 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 12:19:53 PM
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Has anyone seen the mentioned Notice of Intention on the BOC website?
mlennyma
#16 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 12:26:06 PM
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This is broad day conmanship to many shareholders who bought Boc at very high prices
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Balaa
#17 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 12:36:53 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
This is broad day conmanship to many shareholders who bought Boc at very high prices


Straight up! But unfortunately, whoever has the gold, makes the rules. Curious to see how this one plays out, CMA having botched the previous takeover attempt by BOC.
Well, Institutional and private investors could still have their say as BOC Holdings (Linde Group) shareholding is slightly above 65%.
If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense
Monk
#18 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 2:50:40 PM
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Balaa wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This is broad day conmanship to many shareholders who bought Boc at very high prices


Straight up! But unfortunately, whoever has the gold, makes the rules. Curious to see how this one plays out, CMA having botched the previous takeover attempt by BOC.
Well, Institutional and private investors could still have their say as BOC Holdings (Linde Group) shareholding is slightly above 65%.


What happens to those in both CARB and BOC? Are they offering to convert your BOC shares to CARD shares?
Fyatu
#19 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 2:53:16 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
This is broad day conmanship to many shareholders who bought Boc at very high prices


The casino is rigged
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Horton
#20 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:30:46 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This is broad day conmanship to many shareholders who bought Boc at very high prices


The casino is rigged


Personally think it’s a bad purchase by this seasoned investor.

BOC has declining turnover, poor margins and trading at a premium.
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