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essyk
#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2019 9:29:37 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
This prophet is the ultimate artist. He does not have a church himself, he is not an official in any organization. He has churches which are led by independent Bishops who are affiliated with him. I am sure it is possible there is nothing that is registered in his name.

All he has is ACCESS. He has access to their minds and wallets. He does not need to own anything when he owns their minds and spirits. You cannot take him to any court or charge him with any crime.

Now this story has become even more juicy.

This lady was Saitoti's lawyer and possibly mpango. So could she be repenting Goldenburg sins?!!

https://www.the-star.co....itoti-property_c1903521




True, he looks like his control is remote, direct influence is only through preaching. I saw his clip of like 10 years ago, kumbe he was just some ordinary suffering preacher. You saw the battalion of 'Bishops' who were out defending him.

This white region, is the the ultimate opium of Africans.


I knew this guy when he used to preach at Nbo Cinema on thursdays.Very humbled, plus he didn't have that ugly looking beard.Used to look forward to thursdays when he would arrive from uganda and shake that hall with his deliverance teachings.Those were the days of revival.I learnt a lot.

Then he disappeared and resurfaced as the present day Owuor.I can hardly recognise him due to his blasphemeous nature.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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hindi ni riu
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 11:56:23 AM
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Religion is such a hoax!

“Once the last tree is cut and the last river poisoned,you will find you cannot eat your money" Traditional saying.
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hardwood
#13 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 1:00:46 PM
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So he also pocketed 1.2 B after convincing the sick lady to sell saitoti's 1,200 acre farm in Thika. Seems it's Owuor who inherited saitoti's wealth. This is a real woman eater.

https://www.the-star.co....-jaynes-estate_c1904071


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Angelica _ann
#14 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 1:21:23 PM
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hardwood wrote:
So he also pocketed 1.2 B after convincing the sick lady to sell saitoti's 1,200 acre farm in Thika. Seems it's Owuor who inherited saitoti's wealth. This is a real woman eater.

https://www.the-star.co....-jaynes-estate_c1904071




“We sent a letter to him through his lawyer and we asked him to choose the day he prefers between Thursday (today) and Friday (tomorrow),” one DCI officer at Kabete police station told the Star.

Saitoti's wealth at Kshs. 1.2 billion, kweli you are a very young man Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Kusadikika
#15 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 3:04:19 PM
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The only true prophets in Kenya are Mashifta. Listen to this song again and you will be amazed how accurate it still is 10 years after it was sang.
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tinker
#16 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 5:34:07 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
The only true prophets in Kenya are Mashifta. Listen to this song again and you will be amazed how accurate it still is 10 years after it was sang.




I think the song was sang more than 20 years ago.
....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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FRM2011
#17 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 6:23:43 PM
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hardwood wrote:
So he also pocketed 1.2 B after convincing the sick lady to sell saitoti's 1,200 acre farm in Thika. Seems it's Owuor who inherited saitoti's wealth. This is a real woman eater.

https://www.the-star.co....-jaynes-estate_c1904071




This family is one of those where you are surrounded by hyenas everywhere. Everyone is fighting about their sister's properties. Nobody cares about her well-being. She has an adult son who is not complaining. She has not complained. If she swears an affidavit denying their allegations, that is the end of the noise from the family. Followed by a defamation suit from the prophet. Crazy but that is how the law works.

This brain-washing I keep hearing, I no longer use that word. A friend from Europe was shocked when he visited and was woken up very early on Sunday morning by about three churches in the neighborhood. He used the same word - brainwashed masses. It was awkward when I explained we never miss church as a family.

Its a question of perspective. A christian calling an Owuor follower brainwashed. A Jew from the birth-place of Jesus cannot believe that billions of people actually believe in Jesus Christ. An atheist thinks we are all sick, Christians, Muslims and Judaists.
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masukuma
#18 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 7:17:17 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
So he also pocketed 1.2 B after convincing the sick lady to sell saitoti's 1,200 acre farm in Thika. Seems it's Owuor who inherited saitoti's wealth. This is a real woman eater.

https://www.the-star.co....-jaynes-estate_c1904071




This family is one of those where you are surrounded by hyenas everywhere. Everyone is fighting about their sister's properties. Nobody cares about her well-being. She has an adult son who is not complaining. She has not complained. If she swears an affidavit denying their allegations, that is the end of the noise from the family. Followed by a defamation suit from the prophet. Crazy but that is how the law works.

This brain-washing I keep hearing, I no longer use that word. A friend from Europe was shocked when he visited and was woken up very early on Sunday morning by about three churches in the neighborhood. He used the same word - brainwashed masses. It was awkward when I explained we never miss church as a family.

Its a question of perspective. A christian calling an Owuor follower brainwashed. A Jew from the birth-place of Jesus cannot believe that billions of people actually believe in Jesus Christ. An atheist thinks we are all sick, Christians, Muslims and Judaists.


You finally cracked it...Brainwashing ni ya WALE! It's a property of others never 'us'. As far as we are concerned... WE ARE EDUCATED and INFORMED... we know THE TRUTH and those who think we are 'brain washed' are 'MISEDUCATED'... they don't know the 'secrets'... they don't know it like we do!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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essyk
#19 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:39:02 PM
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masukuma wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
So he also pocketed 1.2 B after convincing the sick lady to sell saitoti's 1,200 acre farm in Thika. Seems it's Owuor who inherited saitoti's wealth. This is a real woman eater.

https://www.the-star.co....-jaynes-estate_c1904071




This family is one of those where you are surrounded by hyenas everywhere. Everyone is fighting about their sister's properties. Nobody cares about her well-being. She has an adult son who is not complaining. She has not complained. If she swears an affidavit denying their allegations, that is the end of the noise from the family. Followed by a defamation suit from the prophet. Crazy but that is how the law works.

This brain-washing I keep hearing, I no longer use that word. A friend from Europe was shocked when he visited and was woken up very early on Sunday morning by about three churches in the neighborhood. He used the same word - brainwashed masses. It was awkward when I explained we never miss church as a family.

Its a question of perspective. A christian calling an Owuor follower brainwashed. A Jew from the birth-place of Jesus cannot believe that billions of people actually believe in Jesus Christ. An atheist thinks we are all sick, Christians, Muslims and Judaists.


You finally cracked it...Brainwashing ni ya WALE! It's a property of others never 'us'. As far as we are concerned... WE ARE EDUCATED and INFORMED... we know THE TRUTH and those who think we are 'brain washed' are 'MISEDUCATED'... they don't know the 'secrets'... they don't know it like we do!


Aiii..you got it wrong.
Anything that goes outside the tenets of one's belief is questionable.People will always be held accountable by who they believe in and by their followers.
We all know that religions attract extremists because creation has from time immemorial tried to supercede it's creator without success.
So separate extremists(brainwashers) from ordinary believers because extremists teachings are based on fear and judgement.They become a law unto themselves.
They thrive on ignorance from followers who on the other hand are too dumb or stubborn to verify what is being preached to them. They don't question,yet the same bible they profess commands them to question every gospel and preacher.If it's not biblical it's not of God!
Anything above and beyond the bible no matter how supernatural is false.That's christianity.But how many christians bother to read? They want the preacher to read and interpret as he wishes.No wonder many are poisoned.(brainwashed).It's actually their fault.
They love extraordinary stuff, so extraordinary stuff they get.They have been taught that God is a magician,so abracadabra miracles through divinations are handed down to them as they shout halleluhya.
Now even the devil has forsaken them and divination is no longer working.
What next? Fake miracles (SA/UG take the crown) photoshop,threaten those who question.
Truth is God became fed up and gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient.
It's up to you to decide if you want to follow their false teachings or not.
They will not change.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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masukuma
#20 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2019 9:47:16 PM
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essyk wrote:
masukuma wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
So he also pocketed 1.2 B after convincing the sick lady to sell saitoti's 1,200 acre farm in Thika. Seems it's Owuor who inherited saitoti's wealth. This is a real woman eater.

https://www.the-star.co....-jaynes-estate_c1904071




This family is one of those where you are surrounded by hyenas everywhere. Everyone is fighting about their sister's properties. Nobody cares about her well-being. She has an adult son who is not complaining. She has not complained. If she swears an affidavit denying their allegations, that is the end of the noise from the family. Followed by a defamation suit from the prophet. Crazy but that is how the law works.

This brain-washing I keep hearing, I no longer use that word. A friend from Europe was shocked when he visited and was woken up very early on Sunday morning by about three churches in the neighborhood. He used the same word - brainwashed masses. It was awkward when I explained we never miss church as a family.

Its a question of perspective. A christian calling an Owuor follower brainwashed. A Jew from the birth-place of Jesus cannot believe that billions of people actually believe in Jesus Christ. An atheist thinks we are all sick, Christians, Muslims and Judaists.


You finally cracked it...Brainwashing ni ya WALE! It's a property of others never 'us'. As far as we are concerned... WE ARE EDUCATED and INFORMED... we know THE TRUTH and those who think we are 'brain washed' are 'MISEDUCATED'... they don't know the 'secrets'... they don't know it like we do!


Aiii..you got it wrong.
Anything that goes outside the tenets of one's belief is questionable.People will always be held accountable by who they believe in and by their followers.
We all know that religions attract extremists because creation has from time immemorial tried to supercede it's creator without success.
So separate extremists(brainwashers) from ordinary believers because extremists teachings are based on fear and judgement.They become a law unto themselves.
They thrive on ignorance from followers who on the other hand are too dumb or stubborn to verify what is being preached to them. They don't question,yet the same bible they profess commands them to question every gospel and preacher.If it's not biblical it's not of God!
Anything above and beyond the bible no matter how supernatural is false.That's christianity.But how many christians bother to read? They want the preacher to read and interpret as he wishes.No wonder many are poisoned.(brainwashed).It's actually their fault.
They love extraordinary stuff, so extraordinary stuff they get.They have been taught that God is a magician,so abracadabra miracles through divinations are handed down to them as they shout halleluhya.
Now even the devil has forsaken them and divination is no longer working.
What next? Fake miracles (SA/UG take the crown) photoshop,threaten those who question.
Truth is God became fed up and gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient.
It's up to you to decide if you want to follow their false teachings or not.
They will not change.

you definitely don't consider yourself brainwashed - sio? you believe what you believe and there is a perfect explanation to why you believe. There are people who consider you brainwashed.. a good example is the mzungu friend of @FRM2011! or @hambugler! he would look at your behavior and dismiss you as being 'brainwashed' - right? you yourself know exactly why you are not. according to him you are brainwashed and stupid! to you... they don't know the truths you know. Now... there people you yourself consider 'brainwashed'... you call them 'extremists' in some circles they are known as 'fundamentalists'. You have your own yardstick that you use to measure their 'extremism'

now...Let's do a small thought experiment... let's go into their heads... do they consider themselves 'brainwashed'? of course not! they have a reason why they believe what they believe! to them... it's a perfect set of knowledge that explains their actions. they look at you and feel in the same way you would consider @FRM2011's friend or @hambugler! lost! not knowing the truths you know. they believe they are right in the same fervor you believe you are right and I put it to you - it's the same fervor that @FRM2011's friend or @hambugler have on their position. \
that's why I said NI YA WALE!
@FRM2011's friend or @hambugler consider themselves right... you brainwashed (they have their reasons why).

You consider @FRM2011's friend or @hambugler lost and 'extremists' 'brainwashed' and you have your reasons (you have stated some of your reasons in the above post)

the people you have labeled 'extremists' consider all of you 'lost' and consider some other religious zealot from a religion that is different from yours as 'brainwashed'... and just like you and @hambugler... they have their reasons.

There is always a method to every madness!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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