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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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radiomast wrote:Lack of space is a major factor in obesity. In the days when I grew up, every housing estate had several playing fields. It was actually a requirement by city planners that you could not build a housing estate without open spaces for vijana vijana to play. We would play inter-estate football tournaments in middle class estates. Some estates even had basketball courts and rims.
Starting around the Mid 1980s, those spaces started to dissppear as they were grabbed by bigwigs. These playing fields have all disappeared and housing estates today are all concrete and tarmac with no open spaces. So vijana growing up today have no space to play. They stay at home and play games on smartphones. Things will only get worse because the next frontier for land grabbers is schools.
Like teh Langata Rd primary school land grab and teargassing the school kids. Land grabbers hawana aibu.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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Quote:3. Is it time for GoK to declare obesity a national disaster before things get worse. A fat, unhealthy population will have SERIOUS national security implications because it will imperil things like big 4 HEALTH. A fatter population is more sick, less active in enhancing GDP and the ripple effect will be disastrous. There is no national obesity disaster. What we have are islands of prosperity in a sea of poverty. Remember that 60% of Nairobians live in slums and 42% of Kenyans live in absolute poverty. Many Kenyans are so isolated from this that they tend to lose perspective. Those Middle class parents whose kids are becoming obese should find other ways to get their children active. Start by opposing land grabbing. Petition for open spaces. And get your kids into some kind of activity so they can start building active habits early.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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radiomast wrote:Quote:3. Is it time for GoK to declare obesity a national disaster before things get worse. A fat, unhealthy population will have SERIOUS national security implications because it will imperil things like big 4 HEALTH. A fatter population is more sick, less active in enhancing GDP and the ripple effect will be disastrous. There is no national obesity disaster. What we have are islands of prosperity in a sea of poverty. Remember that 60% of Nairobians live in slums and 42% of Kenyans live in absolute poverty. Many Kenyans are so isolated from this that they tend to lose perspective. Those Middle class parents whose kids are becoming obese should find other ways to get their children active. Start by opposing land grabbing. Petition for open spaces. And get your kids into some kind of activity so they can start building active habits early. Unfortunately for you the evidence belies this vicious lie. https://af.reuters.com/a...ews/idAFKBN1GZ0TK-OZATP
The problem with this airtight poverty theology of yours is that it belongs to the 1980s and 1990s and some are still using knowledge they read in woebegone books from that bygone era forgetting that Kenya made great leaps forward economically after 2002. In fact even the official poverty statistics may be misleading because the economy is largely informal so it is next to impossible to track the economic activities of those in the informal sector, many of whom are listed as under the poverty line merely because the government has no formal data on them (KRA returns not filed, no bank account registered, MPESA activity may not be registered in the person's own name, business highly informalised etc etc) Have you been to the slums lately?  My friend there is a HUGE OBESITY problem there as well! Go to any slum in Kenya and you will be shocked to find 1 out of ever 5 people there are not just FAT but OBESE. Don't believe me? Read hapa and weep! https://nairobinews.nati...tus-found-kenyas-slums/
Slums of today are not the slums of the 1980s my mubroda, even despite the dire conditions there is huge economic activity going on there that was absent in the 1980s and in fact many middle class people (and even rich - eg landlords and thriving business owners) live humo humo! As the economy of Kenya has been growing at 5% plus for the past 17 years more or less, the rising tide has lifted ALL BOATS in Kenya and poverty is reducing at rapid clip as obesity sky rockets. Obesity is a co-disease of Affluenza and there is no doubt that affluenza has been with us for quite some time now. Is there more work to be done in reducing poverty? Absolutely. But tackling obesity too will now become a big problem, even within the slums. Gava needs to start mechanisms in place to get people live healthier more active lives so that it does not become yet another national disaster IMHO.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/22/2009 Posts: 206
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Obesity is a sign of poverty, not wealth. I'm yet to see an obese billionaire anywhere in the world, including Kenya. Example, when Oprah was poor, she was obese. When she got rich, she lost all the unwanted weight. Fast food, which is linked to obesity, is probably the cheapest food in the world.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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radiomast wrote:Quote:3. Is it time for GoK to declare obesity a national disaster before things get worse. A fat, unhealthy population will have SERIOUS national security implications because it will imperil things like big 4 HEALTH. A fatter population is more sick, less active in enhancing GDP and the ripple effect will be disastrous. There is no national obesity disaster. What we have are islands of prosperity in a sea of poverty. Remember that 60% of Nairobians live in slums and 42% of Kenyans live in absolute poverty. Many Kenyans are so isolated from this that they tend to lose perspective. Those Middle class parents whose kids are becoming obese should find other ways to get their children active. Start by opposing land grabbing. Petition for open spaces. And get your kids into some kind of activity so they can start building active habits early. Source of this stat?2009 population census says otherwise If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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TNT wrote:Obesity is a sign of poverty, not wealth. I'm yet to see an obese billionaire anywhere in the world, including Kenya. Example, when Oprah was poor, she was obese. When she got rich, she lost all the unwanted weight. Fast food, which is linked to obesity, is probably the cheapest food in the world. This na not true oo! Kamata exampulus kindogo kindogo....  Billionaire criminal Raj Rajaratnam  Njenga Karume R.I.P  Fafa  Matiba R.I.P.  Sir Charles wa Kabeteshire  Carlos slim is not so slim  Pedo Buffett has had one too many cokes  Mafuta cheeks Dangote  Richard Maponya almost as big as Oloitiptip was!  POTUS ndiye huyo huyo And we can go on and on and on in fact finding a slim billionaire is an anomaly, not the reverse!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/22/2009 Posts: 206
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MugundaMan wrote:TNT wrote:Obesity is a sign of poverty, not wealth. I'm yet to see an obese billionaire anywhere in the world, including Kenya. Example, when Oprah was poor, she was obese. When she got rich, she lost all the unwanted weight. Fast food, which is linked to obesity, is probably the cheapest food in the world. This na not true oo! Kamata exampulus kindogo kindogo.... Billionaire criminal Raj Rajaratnam Njenga Karume R.I.P Fafa Matiba R.I.P. Sir Charles wa Kabeteshire Carlos slim is not so slim Pedo Buffett has had one too many cokes Mafuta cheeks Dangote Richard Maponya almost as big as Oloitiptip was! POTUS ndiye huyo huyo And we can go on and on and on in fact finding a slim billionaire is an anomaly, not the reverse! Those are all pictures of octogenarians, who are in pretty amazing shape for their ages. You've even thrown a 96-year-old, a 100-year-old Njonjo, and an ailing Matiba in the mix to push your twisted agenda. Still, none of those dinosaurs is even close to being obese. Fact is obesity is a poor man's condition. Try again.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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So kumbe you are obese and did not know so If these guys are in "great shape" according to you I shudder to imagine what those in b you think are in bad shape look like!! What's your definition of obesity?  Is 48 year old billionaire James Packer, Mariah Carey's ex a good enough example for ya?  Surely I have provided ENOUGH examples to debunk your billionaires are not fat myth, ama?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/22/2009 Posts: 206
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MugundaMan wrote:So kumbe you are obese and did not know so If these guys are in "great shape" according to you I shudder to imagine what those in b you think are in bad shape look like!! What's your definition of obesity? Is 48 year old billionaire James Packer, Mariah Carey's ex a good enough example for ya? Surely I have provided ENOUGH examples to debunk your billionaires are not fat myth, ama? The Chinese and Americans photos you've posted above, that's my definition of obese. For every 1 Parker, they are literally 10,000 Bezoes, Musks, Zuckerbergs, Meralis, Dangotes, Abramoviches, Kerry Parkers etc etc, which means likes of Parker Junior are the exception that proves the rule, getting fat off daddy's small handouts..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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radiomast wrote:Lack of space is a major factor in obesity. In the days when I grew up, every housing estate had several playing fields. It was actually a requirement by city planners that you could not build a housing estate without open spaces for vijana vijana to play. We would play inter-estate football tournaments in middle class estates. Some estates even had basketball courts and rims.
Starting around the Mid 1980s, those spaces started to dissppear as they were grabbed by bigwigs. These playing fields have all disappeared and housing estates today are all concrete and tarmac with no open spaces. So vijana growing up today have no space to play. They stay at home and play games on smartphones. Things will only get worse because the next frontier for land grabbers is schools.
Kids in slums despite the total lack of space don't have weight issues, obesity especially in kids is just a result of poor parenting.
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