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On this one they will need to buy their own fleets. The existing matatus are too beaten up and will resist change heavily. Guys have seen vile Uber imeharibu biashara ya taxi, now all other transport sectors are very apprehensive of allowing apps into their space
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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tom_boy wrote:Fantastic idea. It is just a larger version of shared rides. With an app and a 14 seater matatu and using power of algorithms it is possible to get an app that assesses traffic, passenger location and driver location. Put them all together for doorstep pick up to a ride into town to a designated drop off or drop offs. For a small premium, millions would opt for this mode of transport. I think that is exactly how they should do it. It might take a while for Kenyans watch from a far on whether it's working, but as they say, innovations are born out of a pain. If it's even solving a small ache, it will succeed. Kinda reminds me of how the traditional taxis never saw it coming and even after it came, some like my former taxi driver who I don't know where he disappeared to, said Uber was just a passing hype that would not last.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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tom_boy wrote:
Vehicles will be owned by individuals just like the taxi uber. There are thousands of people at a particular estate heading to town each morning. There are also thousands of people at say upperhil headed to buru in the evening. What is so hard about hailing an uber matatu that goes round picking estate guys headed to town and vice versa in the evening. The app can be configured to charge a different fair depending on where exactly you will be picked and dropped. No need for a shimo anywhere.
It would be great if it would work but: TLB-Which route will they be registered to? Ma3 guys-What is in it for industry stakeholders? Ma3 owner, deree, kondaa?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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KulaRaha wrote:
Did hailing apps create a new market or just open up an existing one that wasn't served properly?
I take it to be a new market. Just like it's said Equity and MPESA have assisted the unbanked, Uber opened an avenue for many who'd normally not have taken taxis. Number of trips pre & post uber is uncomparable
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 344
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Hmmm ... I don't like this idea. This is money being taken away from Kenya. Uber will finyilia guys and take off with huge profits.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Sansa wrote:Hmmm ... I don't like this idea. This is money being taken away from Kenya. Uber will finyilia guys and take off with huge profits. That's the sad truth. But it's as a result of our failure mainly due to corruption. The advantage is that the government won't need to waste taxpayers money for this solution. But the answer has been below the government's nose all this time, Tha train! Do they not see how full it gets when matatus are on strike?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/24/2012 Posts: 331 Location: Vantage point
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Lolest! wrote:
It would be great if it would work but:
TLB-Which route will they be registered to?
Ma3 guys-What is in it for industry stakeholders? Ma3 owner, deree, kondaa?
Just like their uber taxis aren't their own properties, they will leave ownwership of mats to individuals but will have designated spots guided by the driver's app where the mats will be waiting for people to board. Basically all uber would be doing is taking an already existing transportation infrastructure and modifying it to benefit commuters and themselves. The driver chooses a restricted route say route no.7 but must cover approximately the path that the actual mat route no. 7 does. The further he chooses to deviate from his guided path, the more it may hurt his earnings since mat charges are fixed. The commuter chooses a route that the app proposes as a result of entering their location and destination that is also approximately in line with the driver's route no. 7 for example. The commuter's app then tells them of the closest bus that is within the vicinity waiting for commuters around that area and gives the no. of people left to fill it and how much time it would take them to get to it given their approaching pace. The same time is also communicated to the driver with the longest time being the slowest approaching commuter. The app will not limit anyone choosing the mat so that first come is first served and the mat leaves as soon as it fills up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@drobos, why would a ma3 owner, driver, conductor sign up for this?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:@drobos, why would a ma3 owner, driver, conductor sign up for this? Why do you think the concept is targeted at conventional or current matatu owners? We are limiting our imagination here by applying our broken matatu model to this,...in fact, if Uber tries to emulate the matatu way of doing things, it is likely not to work.. Expanding on @Drobos idea, imagine this scenario ...its 5:30 pm, day over at Industrial Area for instance, people milling about, a prospective traveller enters his or her usual route, Industrial Area Street A to BuruBuru shopping center ..., and so do a few others, the Uber app aggregates people originating from one point and are terminating their journeys at different points along the same route, Shell, phase 5, buru centre ...it sees there is a quorum, may be 7 people are sufficient,...it generates a code for the route, lets call it a journey code and searches nearby to see if there are any vans available and publishes ...a driver signs up/activates the journey code and moves to the first pick up point .... See? Not hard at all. There will be challenges (legal and regulatory), and matatu owners will be rebel and be petulant to the ends of the earth, but the matatu industry will be disrupted....we are reaching a tipping point with this madness.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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quicksand wrote:Lolest! wrote:@drobos, why would a ma3 owner, driver, conductor sign up for this? Why do you think the concept is targeted at conventional or current matatu owners? We are limiting our imagination here by applying our broken matatu model to this,...in fact, if Uber tries to emulate the matatu way of doing things, it is likely not to work.. Expanding on @Drobos idea, imagine this scenario ...its 5:30 pm, day over at Industrial Area for instance, people milling about, a prospective traveller enters his or her usual route, Industrial Area Street A to BuruBuru shopping center ..., and so do a few others, the Uber app aggregates people originating from one point and are terminating their journeys at different points along the same route, Shell, phase 5, buru centre ...it sees there is a quorum, may be 7 people are sufficient,...it generates a code for the route, lets call it a journey code and searches nearby to see if there are any vans available and publishes ...a driver signs up/activates the journey code and moves to the first pick up point .... See? Not hard at all. There will be challenges (legal and regulatory), and matatu owners will be rebel and be petulant to the ends of the earth, but the matatu industry will be disrupted....we are reaching a tipping point with this madness. Interesting @quicksand. The problem with ma3 trips is they don't work like cab trips. But I guess the premise of your argument is that carpooling will sort the passengers(correct). Issue is how to attract vehicle owners especially coz it has to be PSV? Return trips for your guy after dropping clients in Buru? This has been the main attraction in Uber(many trips & reduced dead mileage). But interesting idea. Would love to see it work BTW. Reminds me of these Nipe Lift guys we were discussing on another thread. http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&m=853108
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