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Suicide on the increase in middle-class Kenya
Lolest!
#11 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:45:12 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


I don't know if I agree with that... valid all the same... But it's the most selfish act.

Why "selfish"?

Coz of those you leave behind spouse, parents, kids, siblings, friends

People are left blaming themselves


Just leave a nicely written suicide with a clear reason why. then the rest wont blame themselves.

Shame aspect too for family
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essyk
#12 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 1:54:36 PM
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@ Hi Angelica,

There is nothing like a nicely written suicide note.
I would rather they don't even write anything.Oh I would hate to read it.
At the time of committing suicide one is not in his right mind.
It takes a LOT of strength and emotions to contemplate and eventually do it.
But what saddens me is the fact that most suicidal people will not even talk about it.They only exhibit sysmptoms which we all take for granted.
Kaa ngumu, bora uhai,yet one is a boiling lava waitng to erupt.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
madollar
#13 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 4:21:32 PM
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Location: GA
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


I don't know if I agree with that... valid all the same... But it's the most selfish act.

Why "selfish"?

Coz of those you leave behind spouse, parents, kids, siblings, friends

People are left blaming themselves


Just leave a nicely written suicide with a clear reason why. then the rest wont blame themselves.

In some communities you are flogged then buried at night that way those left behind wanabaki with no guilt
essyk
#14 Posted : Saturday, October 13, 2018 4:43:43 PM
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The prob with some traditions is they faIl to reasonate with the current status of things.
Some traditions thrive very well where ignorance is rife.They will even produce the expected results because that's all that the mind/soul knows.I don't blame them.
You and I know that flogging the dead is plain silly.
It's very soothing however to imagine that it has any positive outcome on the living.So if it gives you peace and closure to flog the dead, go ahead and do so till they repent.eeew.
There are times when God winks.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Hmmmn
#15 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:46:54 AM
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Depression and mental sickness is real...Sometimes you catch it sometimes you don’t...People shouldn’t feél guilty if someone does it...They probably weren’t the problem...No point in blaming oneself over someone else’s actions...
Ce n’est pas si grave...
Ryko
#16 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:28:40 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


I don't know if I agree with that... valid all the same... But it's the most selfish act.

Why "selfish"?

Coz of those you leave behind spouse, parents, kids, siblings, friends

People are left blaming themselves


Just leave a nicely written suicide with a clear reason why. then the rest wont blame themselves.


I suport this, Watu wawache notice before suicide, now look others blaming the wife here

I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
Tokyo
#17 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:56:56 AM
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I respect their decisions if it doesn’t interfere with other people rights and freedom. We shall someday all depart . When and how is the only difference. Who will not ⁇
work to prosper
2012
#18 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 12:00:11 PM
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masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


I don't know if I agree with that... valid all the same... But it's the most selfish act.

Why "selfish"?


As much as it's a personal decision, it deprives the world of your purpose and you leave innocent people behind being blamed and blaming themselves.

I say innocent because nobody is guilty of another person's suicide. It's not murder. Now, for this guy, mara it's the wife, mara the boss... I believe we're all capable of resolving whatever problems we have even by walking away.

BBI will solve it
:)
Hmmmn
#19 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2018 2:21:22 PM
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Ce n’est pas si grave...
masukuma
#20 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 12:44:54 PM
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Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
People should be free to decide if to exit life under their own terms.


I don't know if I agree with that... valid all the same... But it's the most selfish act.

Why "selfish"?


As much as it's a personal decision, it deprives the world of your purpose and you leave innocent people behind being blamed and blaming themselves.

I say innocent because nobody is guilty of another person's suicide. It's not murder. Now, for this guy, mara it's the wife, mara the boss... I believe we're all capable of resolving whatever problems we have even by walking away.

What is your "purpose"? I think the whole "purpose" doctrine is wrong. you have no "purpose" other than what you apply yourself to. it's like a foot... capable of kicking ball... it's purpose is not "to kick the ball" but rather it's capable of kicking the ball. As the head is not "for heading the ball" but capable of "heading the ball". Purpose is in reality more to do with "suitability to doing something and actually doing it" as opposed to "being predestined to doing something".
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