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Reasons to abolish religions.
Mike Ock
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 12:15:05 PM
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They are non-religious because they are well off. It's easy for a well off person to say to hell with the afterlife, I'll just enjoy my life on earth. For us poor Africans, we have to cling to the hope of a better life after death
hamburglar
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 12:37:50 PM
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Mike Ock wrote:
They are non-religious because they are well off. It's easy for a well off person to say to hell with the afterlife, I'll just enjoy my life on earth. For us poor Africans, we have to cling to the hope of a better life after death


I agree. Religion gives the poor hope for a better tomorrow. But as brutal as it sounds, why are we letting people live on false hope? Isn't it time we made our poor Africans face the harsh reality? Reality in this case might just help them open their eyes and think more outside the box for their own sake. There is nothing more empowering than being faced with adverse reality. Makes you a much stronger person.
Angelica _ann
#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 1:01:17 PM
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I have always wondered why life after should be better than now. Why not now?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Swenani
#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 1:02:17 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
They are non-religious because they are well off. It's easy for a well off person to say to hell with the afterlife, I'll just enjoy my life on earth. For us poor Africans, we have to cling to the hope of a better life after death


I agree. Religion gives the poor hope for a better tomorrow. But as brutal as it sounds, why are we letting people live on false hope? Isn't it time we made our poor Africans face the harsh reality? Reality in this case might just help them open their eyes and think more outside the box for their own sake. There is nothing more empowering than being faced with adverse reality. Makes you a much stronger person.


I think religion provides checks and balances for human behavior.In most cases, majority of human beings conscience and morality is guided by religion

The cost of lack of conscience/immorality far outweighs the benefits of eradicating poverty by abolishing religion

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Ngalaka
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:19:41 PM
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Just a casual observation;

The fellow who massacred people in Texas USA three days ago was a 'devout' Atheist!

A person can be good or bad, rich or poor regardless of whether or not - they are Christian, Jew, Muslim, Budhist, Animist, Agnostics, Atheist etc
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
AlphDoti
#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 3:20:49 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
They are non-religious because they are well off. It's easy for a well off person to say to hell with the afterlife, I'll just enjoy my life on earth. For us poor Africans, we have to cling to the hope of a better life after death

I agree. Religion gives the poor hope for a better tomorrow. But as brutal as it sounds, why are we letting people live on false hope? Isn't it time we made our poor Africans face the harsh reality? Reality in this case might just help them open their eyes and think more outside the box for their own sake. There is nothing more empowering than being faced with adverse reality. Makes you a much stronger person.

Our death is happening any time, any minute (remember our Governor who left us this morning, condolences to county men and his family) but yet our biggest worry is about tomorrow? Which other better reality than realizing that?

Yes, true, it is good to prepare for tomorrow, but which tomorrow?

There are two types of tomorrow, the one that you are very sure will come (i.e. tomorrow when you die) and the one that you are not sure will come (i.e. tomorrow of this world).

Get ready for the real tomorrow bro... Otherwise you'll be at a loss. Just imagine how many people were there with us last year, last month, yesterday etc and are no longer with us this minute? Our turn is soon approaching, a day that has no tomorrow, a day that won't mind our schedules or commitments, a day that won't mind if we are ready or not.

That is the harsh reality @hamburglar

Working for this life on earth is okay. We should always do that. And working for the life after death is also important, that is where religion comes in. You must balance the two. It is called work-life -balance.
AlphDoti
#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 3:25:17 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
Just a casual observation;

The fellow who massacred people in Texas USA three days ago was a 'devout' Atheist!

A person can be good or bad, rich or poor regardless of whether or not - they are Christian, Jew, Muslim, Budhist, Animist, Agnostics, Atheist etc

I'm glad it is @Ngalaka who is saying this. At last you made the realization. Alhamdullillah! Applause Applause
2012
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 5:15:31 PM
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Without religion mankind will perish. Tafakari hayo.

BBI will solve it
:)
hamburglar
#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 5:45:34 PM
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2012 wrote:
Without religion mankind will perish. Tafakari hayo.


Scandinavian countries are thriving despite being non-religious atheist countries. In fact they have the best standards of living in the whole world and have virtually zero religion.

Without religion mankind would be super prosperous. Religion is the cause of a lot of turmoil in the world.
hamburglar
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 07, 2017 5:50:32 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
Just a casual observation;

The fellow who massacred people in Texas USA three days ago was a 'devout' Atheist!

A person can be good or bad, rich or poor regardless of whether or not - they are Christian, Jew, Muslim, Budhist, Animist, Agnostics, Atheist etc


Of course there are "evil" atheists. Nobody is 100% clean in this world. I am not saying that atheists are exempt from their share of evil but the vast majority of atheists compared to theists are morally upright people with a conscience that does not rely on believing in a bearded man in the sky to do good.

We do good because it's the right thing to do, not because some god is watching us and keeping tabs on us which he will use to either deny or give us entry into some heaven. That is the worst type of hypocrisy ever.
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