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2012
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:05:09 PM
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Wow! These are not things that happen in London?
What has gone wrong in London?

I think burning alive is the worst way to die, no wonder some people were jumping out and as I've heard, parents were pushing their kids out of the windows over 8 floors up. Very traumatising, I don't even want to imagine.

BBI will solve it
:)
kayhara
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:16:58 PM
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Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
Swenani wrote:
We were/are not bothered with the collapse of the 7 storey building in Embakasi where 15 lives are still unaccounted for yet we are more concerned with a burning building in London.

#Blacklivesdonotmatter#

We are concerned but in Kenya we find excuses throw blame forget and wait for the next, when we try to act the courts issue injunctions, residents refuse to leave. So in Kenya you look at yourself here is a list of what is wrong with Nairobi buildings
-No professional approval by city hall if you have cash you are good.
-no supervision if you have paid your fees you are okay.
-no structural approvals for most buildings. When required it takes up to 2 years to get one.
-how can a 9 storey building have 200 by 200mm columns?
-one staircase of minimal width most furniture is moved through the balconies, the steps are also very high.
-no cross ventilation, most nairobians don't have outside views from their houses.
-fire fighting is a story in residential flats in Eastlands.
-most ground floor units are dark and dump.
-No laundry provisions, you bring your own hanging lines and hang them where you wish, the guys below suffer.
-if ministry of health was serious most shared toilets in say single room flats would be condemned, very dirty and unventilated.
-buildings are so close together that only the face of the building faces empty space, imagine the units at the end on the ground floor.
Because we don't want to act
WE SHALL BURY THE DEAD AND FORGET, THEN MEET HERE UNDER A NEW THREAD TITLED AFTER THE NEXT BUILDING TO COLLAPSE
To Each His Own
maka
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:50:27 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
kayhara wrote:
Swenani wrote:
We were/are not bothered with the collapse of the 7 storey building in Embakasi where 15 lives are still unaccounted for yet we are more concerned with a burning building in London.

#Blacklivesdonotmatter#

We are concerned but in Kenya we find excuses throw blame forget and wait for the next, when we try to act the courts issue injunctions, residents refuse to leave. So in Kenya you look at yourself here is a list of what is wrong with Nairobi buildings
-No professional approval by city hall if you have cash you are good.
-no supervision if you have paid your fees you are okay.
-no structural approvals for most buildings. When required it takes up to 2 years to get one.
-how can a 9 storey building have 200 by 200mm columns?
-one staircase of minimal width most furniture is moved through the balconies, the steps are also very high.
-no cross ventilation, most nairobians don't have outside views from their houses.
-fire fighting is a story in residential flats in Eastlands.
-most ground floor units are dark and dump.
-No laundry provisions, you bring your own hanging lines and hang them where you wish, the guys below suffer.
-if ministry of health was serious most shared toilets in say single room flats would be condemned, very dirty and unventilated.
-buildings are so close together that only the face of the building faces empty space, imagine the units at the end on the ground floor.
Because we don't want to act
WE SHALL BURY THE DEAD AND FORGET, THEN MEET HERE UNDER A NEW THREAD TITLED AFTER THE NEXT BUILDING TO COLLAPSE


Now on the court cases...what prevents the CJ from appointing judges who will sit even on weekends so as to clear the 1000 cases or thereabout in regards to such buildings...The Political Parties tribunal sat even on Sunday...its possible but there is no will power...and I agree with you sir, we will discuss the same story in a few months....
possunt quia posse videntur
2012
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:26:25 PM
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Swenani wrote:
We were/are not bothered with the collapse of the 7 storey building in Embakasi where 15 lives are still unaccounted for yet we are more concerned with a burning building in London.

#Blacklivesdonotmatter#


Let me hopefully try to make you understand why.
Have you ever heard the common question "Why do bad things happen to good people?" Sema eh, I give you the answer.

BBI will solve it
:)
Fullykenyan
#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:08:02 PM
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Joined: 7/27/2014
Posts: 560
Location: Eastlando
Swenani wrote:
We were/are not bothered with the collapse of the 7 storey building in Embakasi where 15 lives are still unaccounted for yet we are more concerned with a burning building in London.

#Blacklivesdonotmatter#


I saw the embakasi thing in BBC too.all lives matter
Swenani
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:05:31 PM
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Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
Fullykenyan wrote:
Swenani wrote:
We were/are not bothered with the collapse of the 7 storey building in Embakasi where 15 lives are still unaccounted for yet we are more concerned with a burning building in London.

#Blacklivesdonotmatter#


I saw the embakasi thing in BBC too.all lives matter


The bane of middle class.

You don't watch local channels, you don't discuss local tragedies. You watch exotic channels and "exotic" tragedies.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Lolest!
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:35:16 AM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Swenani wrote:
Fullykenyan wrote:
Swenani wrote:
We were/are not bothered with the collapse of the 7 storey building in Embakasi where 15 lives are still unaccounted for yet we are more concerned with a burning building in London.

#Blacklivesdonotmatter#


I saw the embakasi thing in BBC too.all lives matter


The bane of middle class.

You don't watch local channels, you don't discuss local tragedies. You watch exotic channels and "exotic" tragedies.

You watched the local channel, did you discuss? Link to your thread??

There's something more hopeless in the London tragedy. It was a fire. It was not a collapse of an already condemned building.

By the way, 3 hours before the Kware building collapsed, police had tried in vain to kick out tenants but they disobeyed the orders.

Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
aemathenge
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:45:49 AM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
maka wrote:
Now on the court cases...what prevents the CJ from appointing judges who will sit even on weekends so as to clear the 1000 cases or thereabout in regards to such buildings.

The man from SDA was categorical.

He does NOT work on Saturday. He will NOT work on Saturday.

As such, he will NOT conjure anyone to work on Saturday.
Swenani
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:54:29 AM
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Posts: 13,237
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Lolest! wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Fullykenyan wrote:
Swenani wrote:
We were/are not bothered with the collapse of the 7 storey building in Embakasi where 15 lives are still unaccounted for yet we are more concerned with a burning building in London.

#Blacklivesdonotmatter#


I saw the embakasi thing in BBC too.all lives matter


The bane of middle class.

You don't watch local channels, you don't discuss local tragedies. You watch exotic channels and "exotic" tragedies.

You watched the local channel, did you discuss? Link to your thread??

There's something more hopeless in the London tragedy. It was a fire. It was not a collapse of an already condemned building.

By the way, 3 hours before the Kware building collapsed, police had tried in vain to kick out tenants but they disobeyed the orders.



Which deaths matter?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Lolest!
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:01:21 AM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Swenani wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Fullykenyan wrote:
Swenani wrote:
We were/are not bothered with the collapse of the 7 storey building in Embakasi where 15 lives are still unaccounted for yet we are more concerned with a burning building in London.

#Blacklivesdonotmatter#


I saw the embakasi thing in BBC too.all lives matter


The bane of middle class.

You don't watch local channels, you don't discuss local tragedies. You watch exotic channels and "exotic" tragedies.

You watched the local channel, did you discuss? Link to your thread??

There's something more hopeless in the London tragedy. It was a fire. It was not a collapse of an already condemned building.

By the way, 3 hours before the Kware building collapsed, police had tried in vain to kick out tenants but they disobeyed the orders.



Which deaths matter?

All. What's the toll in Kware? The last I checked there were no fatalities.

It was a building with issues, they had tried to fix cracks and on the eve of the collapse, they gave up
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
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