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murchr wrote:2012 wrote:Gathige wrote:It is impractical to recruit 50 volunteers per polling station to guard the votes as contemplated by Baba. Such a large number of hangers-on cannot be allowed in a voting hall.
Boss, this is politics, he doesn't need to hire them. Baba can easily collect names from his worshippers and then pretend that they were hired after all, nobody needs to verify since it is not an official duty. Ni gani rahisi, 1M signatures or 1.7Million people to show up at polling stations? seems most do not yet understand this man...this is coded language...those meant to receive the message know exactly what the man wants
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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limanika wrote:murchr wrote:2012 wrote:Gathige wrote:It is impractical to recruit 50 volunteers per polling station to guard the votes as contemplated by Baba. Such a large number of hangers-on cannot be allowed in a voting hall.
Boss, this is politics, he doesn't need to hire them. Baba can easily collect names from his worshippers and then pretend that they were hired after all, nobody needs to verify since it is not an official duty. Ni gani rahisi, 1M signatures or 1.7Million people to show up at polling stations? seems most do not yet understand this man...this is coded language...those meant to receive the message know exactly what the man wants We actually do. Back to 2007 same strategy was used "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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kaka2za wrote:Gathige wrote:It is impractical to recruit 50 volunteers per polling station to guard the votes as contemplated by Baba. Such a large number of hangers-on cannot be allowed in a voting hall.
CORD /NASA will struggle to get a single agent in JP strongholds leave alone 50 volunteers Babu is trying to C&P the Ghana experience but the dynamics are very different True that. This thing has been in planning for a while now. I was cordinating for two constituencies but the logistics became a nightmare I had to drop one. Now with the current situation, my guys will charge me more for the same job thinking I have collected millions from Baba.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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limanika wrote:masukuma wrote:Gathige wrote:It is impractical to recruit 50 volunteers per polling station to guard the votes as contemplated by Baba. Such a large number of hangers-on cannot be allowed in a voting hall.
even the IEBC does not have that level of organization - itakuwa ni Rao? there are say 34,000 stations - weka watu 50 in each... that 1.7 Million! kama hawakupata signature 1M itakuwa hawa 1.7M? watu wanamchezo sana! These vijanaa will mostly be engaged...or engage themselves... in cord strongholds of nyanza and western...with 50 rough youths, even police would not dare visit the polling stations. Then the turn out will 'artificially' turn out to be very big...in these areas coz the absent will also be voting... someone check, if you get '99%' turnout in western, nyanza - by design, and say 80% in central & rift, where does the tally get? It's only a fool who does the same thing twice expecting different results? How different is this from the 2007 and 2013 time? PNU/TNA/JP have already factored that into their equation! Shida ni the red zone... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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In summary expect a rigging contest with 99% turn out in Kaspul kabondo and Nithi Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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kaka2za wrote:In summary expect a rigging contest with 99% turn out in Kaspul kabondo and Nithi yes... as it was in 2007 All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Anyway, luckily I don't think we will get there. NASA will have broken up or morphed into a bad idea.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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limanika wrote:masukuma wrote:Gathige wrote:It is impractical to recruit 50 volunteers per polling station to guard the votes as contemplated by Baba. Such a large number of hangers-on cannot be allowed in a voting hall.
even the IEBC does not have that level of organization - itakuwa ni Rao? there are say 34,000 stations - weka watu 50 in each... that 1.7 Million! kama hawakupata signature 1M itakuwa hawa 1.7M? watu wanamchezo sana! These vijanaa will mostly be engaged...or engage themselves... in cord strongholds of nyanza and western...with 50 rough youths, even police would not dare visit the polling stations. Then the turn out will 'artificially' turn out to be very big...in these areas coz the absent will also be voting... someone check, if you get '99%' turnout in western, nyanza - by design, and say 80% in central & rift, where does the tally get? This is a very real possibility The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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@masukuma, I know it's Friday but can you break down to us today's ruling that Presidential​ results announced at the constituency are final and cannot be varied/ altered.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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FRM2011 wrote:
@masukuma, I know it's Friday but can you break down to us today's ruling that Presidential​ results announced at the constituency are final and cannot be varied/ altered.
I am not masukuma but according to taifa leo. Quote:
This means that the section of the Elections Act that gave IEBC the mandate to vary presidential election results submitted by returning officers at the constituency levels has been declared unconstitutional.
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The judges have consequently ruled that a returning officer at the constituency level has the mandate to declare final presidential election results and that any other person seeking to have what will be announced altered should do that through an election petition filed in court.
mimi naona shida, if a returning officer makes a mistake, does iebc announce the same or do they stop the tallying and go to court first.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Were any results altered in the past so that IEBC in Nairobi announced different results from what returning officers machinani had announced? Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
@masukuma, I know it's Friday but can you break down to us today's ruling that Presidential​ results announced at the constituency are final and cannot be varied/ altered.
I am not masukuma but according to taifa leo. Quote:
This means that the section of the Elections Act that gave IEBC the mandate to vary presidential election results submitted by returning officers at the constituency levels has been declared unconstitutional.
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The judges have consequently ruled that a returning officer at the constituency level has the mandate to declare final presidential election results and that any other person seeking to have what will be announced altered should do that through an election petition filed in court.
mimi naona shida, if a returning officer makes a mistake, does iebc announce the same or do they stop the tallying and go to court first. Yes - the returning officer is final... that's the whole point of being a RETURNING OFFICER! there is not such thing as "the iebc" bila the ROs. So yes! Wacha iende kortini no operational persons should touch those results. The commissioners should announce them as give. Elections ni machinani. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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ROs will be king! Brown envelopes will guarantee a win and 100% turnout. Naona Shida!! i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/17/2007 Posts: 1,345
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Nandwa wrote:Were any results altered in the past so that IEBC in Nairobi announced different results from what returning officers machinani had announced?
Haiya! Hujui?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Nandwa wrote:Were any results altered in the past so that IEBC in Nairobi announced different results from what returning officers machinani had announced?
NO "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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