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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:@masukuma, as we have agreed before, nobody should be prevented to practice his or her religion. And nobody should discredit the name of any personality in any other religion. These personalities must be accorded respect i.e. Moses, or Abraham, Jesus, or Muhammad, or God.I have told you many times again and again, Muslims love and respect all prophets of God from Abraham, to Moses, to David, to Jesus to Muhammad peace be upon them all. So no atheist should discredit these personalities just coz they don't believe in. They should not mock their names coz it does not concern them. Similarly a Christian should respect these personalities even if they don't believe in them. Saying " What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?" by that lady you quoted perhaps were derogatory. Such words should not be directed at any other religion... masukuma wrote:she has been condemned to death for asking the question - "What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?" after muslims made derogatory statements about her religion. accorded respect yes.. not questioned? NO! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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rp Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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rrp Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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maqt (Abomination) I AM trust in GOD, I AM belief in THYSELF
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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Parents should be at liberty to name their kid allah unless it's derogatory in their local language work to prosper
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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Parents should be at liberty to name whatsoever unless it's derogatory in their local language work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@masukuma, as we have agreed before, nobody should be prevented to practice his or her religion. And nobody should discredit the name of any personality in any other religion. These personalities must be accorded respect i.e. Moses, or Abraham, Jesus, or Muhammad, or God.I have told you many times again and again, Muslims love and respect all prophets of God from Abraham, to Moses, to David, to Jesus to Muhammad peace be upon them all. So no atheist should discredit these personalities just coz they don't believe in. They should not mock their names coz it does not concern them. Similarly a Christian should respect these personalities even if they don't believe in them. Saying " What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?" by that lady you quoted perhaps were derogatory. Such words should not be directed at any other religion... masukuma wrote:she has been condemned to death for asking the question - "What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?" after muslims made derogatory statements about her religion. accorded respect yes.. not questioned? NO! Many Christians today are unaware that Allah is the name of God used by Arabic-speaking Christians. Unfortunately, some Christians like kina @lonest unthinkingly say ‘Allah is not God’ yet in fact, the Arabic Bible is filled with the word Allah, from the book of Genesis and to Revelation. And Jesus Christ is referred to as "the son of Allah" in the Arabic Bibles. How, can these Christians say that Allah is an invalid name for God, yet many years before Muhammad pbuh came, the Jews and Christians in Arabia peninsula referred to God by the name Allah. And today the 10 million Arab Christians around the world call God ‘Allah’ in their Bibles, song and worship. I think this is largely due to ignorance, or arrogance or hatred or intentionally trying to deceive... Pliz let us be sincere educators
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Ngalaka wrote:I remember a news story about an Asian Muslim majority Country where the Muslims objected to the use of the word “Allah” by Christians to refer to their (Christian) God! It would be an insult to Arab Christians for anyone tell them not to use this word "Allah"! We need to bridge the distance between Muslims and Christians. When we promote such thinking then we widen the gap of separation between us and you. As for those Christians who still insist that it is blasphemy to refer to God as Allah should know that Muhammad’s (pbuh) father was named Abd-Allah which I explained yesterday to mean "servant of God" many years before his son Muhammad pbuh was born, way back before he was given prophet-hood @ngalaka, can you share source of that story? It sounds like a propaganda...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, Mungu, Ngai, Dieux... What's the difference? The point is that you cannot name your child the above name unless you are in a country with extreme freedom of expression to the extent that it allows the infringement of others rights. Everyone who calls that girl will be forced to blaspheme which is undemocratic. Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, Mungu, Ngai, Dieux... What's the difference?
The point is that you cannot name your child the above name unless you are in a country with extreme freedom of expression to the extent that it allows the infringement of others rights. Everyone who calls that girl will be forced to blaspheme which is undemocratic. replace that with ' people to hurt other people's feelings' coz your rights end where mine begin! and the right to speech is universal... the right to be taken seriously is not! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@masukuma, as we have agreed before, nobody should be prevented to practice his or her religion. And nobody should discredit the name of any personality in any other religion. These personalities must be accorded respect i.e. Moses, or Abraham, Jesus, or Muhammad, or God.I have told you many times again and again, Muslims love and respect all prophets of God from Abraham, to Moses, to David, to Jesus to Muhammad peace be upon them all. So no atheist should discredit these personalities just coz they don't believe in. They should not mock their names coz it does not concern them. Similarly a Christian should respect these personalities even if they don't believe in them. Saying " What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?" by that lady you quoted perhaps were derogatory. Such words should not be directed at any other religion... masukuma wrote:she has been condemned to death for asking the question - "What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind?" after muslims made derogatory statements about her religion. accorded respect yes.. not questioned? NO! No one can claim to control the thought process in and what someone is likely to come up with at a certain point in time. Person X may claim that the name Allah refers to a prophet of theirs. Person Y may say that the name is actually of a very bad spirit in their belief system. Who knows, may be someone has already been practising such or similar religion but has not gained prominence to be broadcast around the world. Might they also demand respect. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Nandwa wrote:
No one can claim to control the thought process in and what someone is likely to come up with at a certain point in time.
Person X may claim that the name Allah refers to a prophet of theirs.
Person Y may say that the name is actually of a very bad spirit in their belief system.
Who knows, may be someone has already been practising such or similar religion but has not gained prominence to be broadcast around the world.
Might they also demand respect.
oh yeah... kuna majina za maTown japan!! so the word itself is harmless... it's the people who hear it who deduce/attach meaning to it! so you really don't hurt God... he does not care about the name... coz it could mean something nasty in some New Guinean tongue... it's really that we hurt the feelings of the people who assign the ultimate meaning to the word!! so... really blasphemy is what happens when you hurt emotions of adherents of any religion in large numbers! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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AlphDoti wrote:Ngalaka wrote:I remember a news story about an Asian Muslim majority Country where the Muslims objected to the use of the word “Allah” by Christians to refer to their (Christian) God! It would be an insult to Arab Christians for anyone tell them not to use this word "Allah"! We need to bridge the distance between Muslims and Christians. When we promote such thinking then we widen the gap of separation between us and you. As for those Christians who still insist that it is blasphemy to refer to God as Allah should know that Muhammad’s (pbuh) father was named Abd-Allah which I explained yesterday to mean "servant of God" many years before his son Muhammad pbuh was born, way back before he was given prophet-hood @ngalaka, can you share source of that story? It sounds like a propaganda... Who gets too touchy about these issues? Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote:Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's home state of Gujarat on Friday increased the punishment for cow slaughter from seven years to life imprisonment as Hindu hardliners push for tougher protections for the holy animal. Aljazeera
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:Quote:Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's home state of Gujarat on Friday increased the punishment for cow slaughter from seven years to life imprisonment as Hindu hardliners push for tougher protections for the holy animal. Aljazeera poor indians... soon there will be kids who don't know the taste of beef masala or goan beef vindaloo! what a loss! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:Quote:Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's home state of Gujarat on Friday increased the punishment for cow slaughter from seven years to life imprisonment as Hindu hardliners push for tougher protections for the holy animal. Aljazeera poor indians... soon there will be kids who don't know the taste of beef masala or goan beef vindaloo! what a loss! This is what happens when crazy laity begin imposing their craze on others. A least these ones are contained in Gujarati. Imagine them in Kashmir on the one side, then, on the other side you have the dont-use-Allah-name brigade. Result massacre! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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guru267 wrote:Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Elohim, Mungu, Ngai, Dieux... What's the difference?
The point is that you cannot name your child the above name unless you are in a country with extreme freedom of expression to the extent that it allows the infringement of others rights. Everyone who calls that girl will be forced to blaspheme which is undemocratic. How's that? Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Fight over who has the right to use the word Allah!Quote:Bibles using the word ‘Allah’ have been seized, churches and mosques have been attacked and clashes have erupted between Muslims and Christians.
Finally, Malaysia’s court decided that the word ‘Allah’ can also be used by churches and in bibles.
However, the weekly Malay-language newspaper of the Catholic Church, The Herald, has been banned from using ‘Allah’.
Non Muslims restricted on use of word AllahQuote:Malaysian authorities say non-Muslim literature that contains the word could confuse Muslims and cause them to convert away from Islam, which is a crime in many parts of the country Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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But, jokes aside, and extremism aside, and putting exceeding limits aside... Pope Francis’ comments a while back sums it up: “ It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.” Peace! Let us stop there regarding this topic. Until the next Christian or atheist starts a thread insulting Islam.
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