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hamburglar wrote:aemathenge wrote:hamburglar wrote:So, somebody tell me, what's the point of having kids again? Do you fire blank bullets? Asking for a friend. Lol. Tell your "friend" that is a very creepy question. Men don't ask other men such questions, it's creepy. My friend rephrases the question. Are you capable of fathering children? For example, if a rich woman asked you to donate sperms through coitus, would you be capable of rising to the occasion?
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aemathenge wrote:hamburglar wrote:aemathenge wrote:hamburglar wrote:So, somebody tell me, what's the point of having kids again? Do you fire blank bullets? Asking for a friend. Lol. Tell your "friend" that is a very creepy question. Men don't ask other men such questions, it's creepy. My friend rephrases the question. Are you capable of fathering children? For example, if a rich woman asked you to donate sperms through coitus, would you be capable of rising to the occasion? He will interrupt the coitus before its even done! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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aemathenge wrote:hamburglar wrote:aemathenge wrote:hamburglar wrote:So, somebody tell me, what's the point of having kids again? Do you fire blank bullets? Asking for a friend. Lol. Tell your "friend" that is a very creepy question. Men don't ask other men such questions, it's creepy. My friend rephrases the question. Are you capable of fathering children? For example, if a rich woman asked you to donate sperms through coitus, would you be capable of rising to the occasion? I hope so. I have never knocked up any girl so I don't know. And besides, I don't think there is any shame if someone is not able to father kids or shoot blanks as you describe it. It doesn't mean that he is less of a man than other men as you are trying to insinuate, it just means that he has an unfortunate (or fortunate) medical condition which is nothing to be ashamed of. It's not the 1950's anymore when men were revered as the hegoat (pun intended) of the village because they could impregnate 11 wives and sire 49 kids to prove how manly they were. It's a civilized generation Now and not being able to have kids is not taboo anymore. Lol. And why would the woman have to be rich by the way? You lost me there kidogo.
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Interesting thread, interesting issues. I think society needs to review the understanding of the concept of Family Planning. That it's more than just contraception and also involves planning for the number of kids one can afford to have bearing in mind the quality of life they desire for themselves and their kids.
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its2013 wrote:Interesting thread, interesting issues.
I think society needs to review the understanding of the concept of Family Planning. That it's more than just contraception and also involves planning for the number of kids one can afford to have bearing in mind the quality of life they desire for themselves and their kids. Finally somebody sort of agrees with me on something for the first time since I joined wazua. Lol. You can excuse the uneducated people for being ignorant about family planning, but we are talking about highly educated urban dwellers who can't seem to grasp the concept. It's very bizarre.
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hamburglar wrote:Much Know wrote:hamburglar wrote:Much Know wrote:hamburglar wrote:who loves them What is love ? Is that a serious question? Yes it is a serious question, i thought atheist depend on somee 'logic' to run their affairs not abstract notions like "love" which cannot be proven. You say there is no "faith", yet there is "love", whats the difference, thought these come from the "soul". In this regard i think you mean 'eros love', or "romantic love", what is it? how can you prove you 'know' love? Psychos don't know love, they are cold, some say the same of atheist, they are cold unfeeling and anti-social, think lenin, pol pot, stalin, e.t.c, cold blooded thinkers and murderers who depend on "logic", this is why i want you to explain about love, does it come from the brain? Nonsense The answer @hamburglar, lies in this question that was avoided: What is love? Your posts show commendable wisdom on your part on the first 3 steps of love - destiny may see you conquer the last two, who knows?  Love of self -> -> love of others (philia) -> love of spouse (eros) -> love of offspring (storge) -> love of the great Unknown (agape)
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@Humbargler Your argument has a place in today's society but not as you put it. Yes, some people may not want children for many reasons, mostly due to career demands, lack of compatible partners or even the experience during upbringing. Very few however opt to not have children because of economic status, trust me, children are never an economic burden to any responsible parent. You sound like you are keeping a circle of very irresponsible company. Anyone asking you for soft loan (as a friend) is financially irresponsible advise them to re-prioritize their expenditure patterns. I have many friends and none if any ever ask me for soft loans, I also don't ask them. I don't think coffee at Java or a steak is the right measure for a great life in the long run either, like every material thing, they lose meaning the moment you can afford them. Kids are not a must, but when you get them, they are the greatest thing in the world, because they change everyday and are full of surprises, unlike your Java coffee and juicy steak. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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@hamburger
Life is not all about money.
Going to Java and trips is nothing
Kids don't come with brokeness. They bring along blessings as they themselves are blessings and Gifts.
Lack of money,by your colleagues, is due to their bad decisions.
If you don't like to get kids, its your decision stick with it. Dont let anyone force you to.
However from your post, you seem to have some angerness,you think your friends are broke because of kids. You have some resentment,probably caused by your inability to do something.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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hamburglar wrote:I have never knocked up any girl.
And besides, I don't think there is any shame if someone is not able to father kids or shoot blanks as you describe it.
It doesn't mean that he is less of a man than other men as you are trying to insinuate, it just means that he has an unfortunate (or fortunate) medical condition which is nothing to be ashamed of.
It's not the 1950's anymore when men were revered as the hegoat (pun intended) of the village because they could impregnate 11 wives and sire 49 kids to prove how manly they were.
It's a civilized generation Now and not being able to have kids is not taboo anymore. Lol.
And why would the woman have to be rich by the way? You lost me there kidogo. My friend has pigeon holed you and your kind and moved on to matters of national importance like the management of the Machizi Express. However, I do have a few queries of my own, and the rich lady can afford to bring up a child while you posit you can’t. You can afford to pay for exotic tourism but you cannot afford to bring up a child. You do not know whether you can father a child, you have never fathered one. Which means you have never tried. What was that major fall out you had with your mother and father that you do not wish to “birth” them? You look down with disdain on people who have children, and lend out thousands to them, yet you cannot afford to bring up your own. Your friends, peers, and colleagues prefer raising children. Why then are they your friends, peers and colleagues? Shouldn’t you be fraternizing with your kind? And what kind would that be? You do not mention the gender of your “fiancee” are you gay?
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