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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 401
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@ GG and Anarchy
You two remind me of one Donald Kipkorir,a lawyer and regular DN columnist who wrote an article about annexing Somalia by Kenya and Ethiopia. The responses and threats he got from Somalis...too deadly.
It would not work .Seriously. Kenya tumeshindwa na NEP,how will we manage extra 'baggage' of Somalia?
Somalis are an industrious community,second after Kikuyus. Those big buses plying the Githurai 45 route,almost all belong to them. They have finished developing Eastleigh,they have moved to Kariokor,and until recently,Githurai area.
Lyanne,i almost pity your friend. He/she is in for a big ride. They do not give up easily.They will hound him/her,and they are known to use unconventional means to get what they want. Ask Eastleigh natives.
If that boy don't love you by now,then he never will-Ciara
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Som's are most welcome to do business in kenya,but out of interest. Their greatest asset seems to be the cheap labour that they get from relatives,you can have 20 of them living comfortably in a 2 bedroomed house. How I don't know. How do they manage to import goods at prices below others,do they pay taxes? Where do they get the huge capitals they have? Piracy? Saudi charity to spread Islam? I am all for Kenya taking over Somalia,my worry is we will have a fight from a few of them 'fighting for their homeland' that will go on forever and we don't want that. I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/28/2009 Posts: 28
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@Xtina and others of similar thinking,there is no empirical evidence that the Kikuyu are more more enterprising than other Kenyan communities. They just happen to have been living on or near the white highlands and inherited a lot of infrastucture from the departing colonialist. As some one argued on this site a few weeks ago,outside of Kenya,Luos,Mijikenda etc do as well as their Kikuyu brothers,in business. And in case you doubt this,think...before the mkoloni,the Kikuyu were not involved in trade with any of their neighbours.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/5/2009 Posts: 181
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@ Xtina,i dont doubt unconventional means,but if push comes to shove,i think the guy will name a huge amount to deter them.
I hate the fact that foreigners are taking over our country. They're all over like a bad rash !
Looks like we need the bill on money laundering,atleast it will stop this invasion !
The Hedonist
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/13/2009 Posts: 9
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These chaps are really go-getters. I have worked with them and under them for several years and they are smart guys in business. They work on small margins /high volume concept,are awash with hard cash,borrow from their clansmen on trust with no guarantee (if you default on payment,punishment is by beheading). Lastly when they want something or decide on a venture,they have to get it/do it come-rain-sun!
They seem to be the next big thing in kenya and guys we need to work with them and learn their positive traits to reap the maximum. After all who would have bought my friends plot in Kimathi estate the other day at 35m! The chap went and bought two plots in Kayole and is now about to complete one multi storeyed residential block.
Watch this Space!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 489
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Alchemist
Am not a kiuk apologist/chauvinist but got this from Wikipedia and thought you might be interested.
' Kikuyus are also the most economically active ethnic group in Kenya……. were generally on good terms with the Maasai – their neighbours,with whom they traded extensively. Colonialism,however,disturbed this order. Beginning in the 1880s,the British …………… confiscated land from the Kikuyu,who were confined to a small reserve,unable to cultivate their land
………..Colonization eroded many traditional practices and values… Many Kikuyu have moved …… to the cities and around the world to look for opportunities. They have also moved to other parts of the country and the world due to intermarriage,business opportunities,study,and generally seeking better prospects in life..... '
i have always wonderred why certain communities settled in the dry areas after the 'early migration'
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/13/2009 Posts: 9
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Oh my God! Not this time again.
I can smell a tribal thread being shoved in by the likes of Xtina,Alchemist and gk. It was about somali businessmen guys!
Please please dont take us there friends. Its Yuk.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/27/2006 Posts: 5
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Somali's will take over Kenya based on the following:
They are not greedy - they will look to make 20 bob mark up from 10,000 phones as opposed to the Kenyan business man looking to make 1000 from the same quantity pieces They pay little or no tax Pirate money trickling in to them during a recession They are taking over premium property on the Build Operate and Surrender business plan i.e. take over the run down building in Tom Mboya St build a couple of new floors,subdivide and lease out the premises and collect rent for like the next 10 yrs. During this time the building owner is collecting a pre-agreed rent from them paid a year in advance and after the 10 years he collects the rent from the building tenants. They do not try to back stub business partners and are operate on cash basis with suppliers,thus a firm favorite of many established businessmen
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/17/2008 Posts: 567 Location: Nairobi
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My only problem with this guys is that they do not respect common decency. If you live near them youll know what I am saying.
Today morning as i was comming to work two of them stopped their cars on opposite sides of the road and started chatting. The road got clogged in a minute and the hooting on both sides didnt bother them.
Be greedy when others are fearful,be fearful when others are greedy.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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@ xtina, correction...ati tumeshindwa na NEP.....tumeshindwa na everything... Mungiki and other extortion gangs,mathree madness,official corruption,incompetent judiciary,moriband and ineffective executive,disorganised pigsty etc NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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