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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I think the Nairobi National Park is a total waste of space. In my opinion the whole park should be closed and the land well planned and subdivided for both residential and commercial use. It is of no use kabisa. I do not think even its revenues justify its existence. It is just one of the vestiges of colonization and we keep it because some rich wazungus think it is important but to a majority of Kenyans and especially Nairobians this park has no value at all.
Some MP should begin drafting a law for its dissolution and if that does not work subject the question to a referendum by Nairobians and I am sure majority will vote to do away with it.
We cannot be living in congestion while 28,963 acres are just left out for animals. Even the tourists who come do not come to Nairobi so that they can go to the National Park. This is a classic tunnel vision syndrome. Why must the railway go right through the park. Supposing there was no park, then people would have built right where the park currently lies, would the railway still insist on moving the people for the trains to get to Kisumu/UG on time. Very lazy planning by govt. That Railway is a good opportunity for the govt to expand the living space around Nairobi beyond the current zones and develop better town plans. We should find that unoccupied space and let the animals be. Example why can't it pass through the vast kajiado plains south of the park, how long will the trains delay by if they detoured around the park. Some of us really enjoy driving around the park over the weekends with family. With reference to the diagram below, could you please explain how they would have gotten to the said Kajiado plains south of the park from the Nrb south depot? The railway is passing OVER the NNP even planes fly over the NNP. Note the KWS board rejected the construction of a tunnel  The depot is close to JKIA.  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Kusadikika wrote:I think the Nairobi National Park is a total waste of space. In my opinion the whole park should be closed and the land well planned and subdivided for both residential and commercial use. It is of no use kabisa. I do not think even its revenues justify its existence. It is just one of the vestiges of colonization and we keep it because some rich wazungus think it is important but to a majority of Kenyans and especially Nairobians this park has no value at all.
Some MP should begin drafting a law for its dissolution and if that does not work subject the question to a referendum by Nairobians and I am sure majority will vote to do away with it.
We cannot be living in congestion while 28,963 acres are just left out for animals. Even the tourists who come do not come to Nairobi so that they can go to the National Park. Which Kenya do you live in? You trust Kenyan politicians and bureaucrats to judiciously use the land for the benefit of other Kenyans? By the time DPORK gets his share and Weta gets his share and the commissioner of lands gets his share and the Chief of Police gets his share,..............there will be no land left. We will be back to square one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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Truth be told, the Nbi National Park is too small an ecosystem for a sustainable park. It should at best be converted to a Zoo with all the animals enclosed. With all the migratory paths on the Kitengela side fully occupied, the animals in the park have been held captive within a very small area of land "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Kusadikika wrote:I think the Nairobi National Park is a total waste of space. In my opinion the whole park should be closed and the land well planned and subdivided for both residential and commercial use. It is of no use kabisa. I do not think even its revenues justify its existence. It is just one of the vestiges of colonization and we keep it because some rich wazungus think it is important but to a majority of Kenyans and especially Nairobians this park has no value at all.
Some MP should begin drafting a law for its dissolution and if that does not work subject the question to a referendum by Nairobians and I am sure majority will vote to do away with it.
We cannot be living in congestion while 28,963 acres are just left out for animals. Even the tourists who come do not come to Nairobi so that they can go to the National Park. Does this mean we have settled (and congested) all lands from syokimau to katani to lukenya, kitengela, isinya, Tuala, Juja farm, kamulu etc etc and the only land available now is Nairobi national park? It is totally wrong to state that the park has no value at all to Nairobians, when majority of them live in flats/apartments and slums and the only large place they can relax and get fresh air is that national park.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I think the Nairobi National Park is a total waste of space. In my opinion the whole park should be closed and the land well planned and subdivided for both residential and commercial use. It is of no use kabisa. I do not think even its revenues justify its existence. It is just one of the vestiges of colonization and we keep it because some rich wazungus think it is important but to a majority of Kenyans and especially Nairobians this park has no value at all.
Some MP should begin drafting a law for its dissolution and if that does not work subject the question to a referendum by Nairobians and I am sure majority will vote to do away with it.
We cannot be living in congestion while 28,963 acres are just left out for animals. Even the tourists who come do not come to Nairobi so that they can go to the National Park. Does this mean we have settled (and congested) all lands from syokimau to katani to lukenya, kitengela, isinya, Tuala, Juja farm, kamulu etc etc and the only land available now is Nairobi national park? It is totally wrong to state that the park has no value at all to Nairobians, when majority of them live in flats/apartments and slums and the only large place they can relax and get fresh air is that national park. @masukuma do you have the numbers of nairobians who even know a park exists in Nairobi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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vroom! vroom! vroom! Ethiopia will leave us in a cloud of dust, as people from @kiash land with their paved walkways, humongous roads and excellent railways find a way of dealing with their boredom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I think the Nairobi National Park is a total waste of space. In my opinion the whole park should be closed and the land well planned and subdivided for both residential and commercial use. It is of no use kabisa. I do not think even its revenues justify its existence. It is just one of the vestiges of colonization and we keep it because some rich wazungus think it is important but to a majority of Kenyans and especially Nairobians this park has no value at all.
Some MP should begin drafting a law for its dissolution and if that does not work subject the question to a referendum by Nairobians and I am sure majority will vote to do away with it.
We cannot be living in congestion while 28,963 acres are just left out for animals. Even the tourists who come do not come to Nairobi so that they can go to the National Park. Does this mean we have settled (and congested) all lands from syokimau to katani to lukenya, kitengela, isinya, Tuala, Juja farm, kamulu etc etc and the only land available now is Nairobi national park? It is totally wrong to state that the park has no value at all to Nairobians, when majority of them live in flats/apartments and slums and the only large place they can relax and get fresh air is that national park. @masukuma do you have the numbers of nairobians who even know a park exists in Nairobi How would they know if the only form of relaxation they know is phombe? Instead of spending 3k on a weekend on phombe, nyama, fish etc why not put 1k fuel in the car and take the family on an afternoon game drive at the park? If you dont have a car you could hire a taxi at 2k for the same, and even KWS has scheduled tour buses for those who do not have cars. City life shouldn't only be about being imprisoned in your apartment or visiting the pub.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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hardwood wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I think the Nairobi National Park is a total waste of space. In my opinion the whole park should be closed and the land well planned and subdivided for both residential and commercial use. It is of no use kabisa. I do not think even its revenues justify its existence. It is just one of the vestiges of colonization and we keep it because some rich wazungus think it is important but to a majority of Kenyans and especially Nairobians this park has no value at all.
Some MP should begin drafting a law for its dissolution and if that does not work subject the question to a referendum by Nairobians and I am sure majority will vote to do away with it.
We cannot be living in congestion while 28,963 acres are just left out for animals. Even the tourists who come do not come to Nairobi so that they can go to the National Park. Does this mean we have settled (and congested) all lands from syokimau to katani to lukenya, kitengela, isinya, Tuala, Juja farm, kamulu etc etc and the only land available now is Nairobi national park? It is totally wrong to state that the park has no value at all to Nairobians, when majority of them live in flats/apartments and slums and the only large place they can relax and get fresh air is that national park. @masukuma do you have the numbers of nairobians who even know a park exists in Nairobi How would they know if the only form of relaxation they know is phombe? Instead of spending 3k on a weekend on phombe, nyama, fish etc why not put 1k fuel in the car and take the family on an afternoon game drive at the park? If you dont have a car you could hire a taxi at 2k for the same, and even KWS has scheduled tour buses for those who do not have cars. City life shouldn't only be about being imprisoned in your apartment or visiting the pub. BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Listen to Hardwood!  Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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KulaRaha wrote:hardwood wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I think the Nairobi National Park is a total waste of space. In my opinion the whole park should be closed and the land well planned and subdivided for both residential and commercial use. It is of no use kabisa. I do not think even its revenues justify its existence. It is just one of the vestiges of colonization and we keep it because some rich wazungus think it is important but to a majority of Kenyans and especially Nairobians this park has no value at all.
Some MP should begin drafting a law for its dissolution and if that does not work subject the question to a referendum by Nairobians and I am sure majority will vote to do away with it.
We cannot be living in congestion while 28,963 acres are just left out for animals. Even the tourists who come do not come to Nairobi so that they can go to the National Park. Does this mean we have settled (and congested) all lands from syokimau to katani to lukenya, kitengela, isinya, Tuala, Juja farm, kamulu etc etc and the only land available now is Nairobi national park? It is totally wrong to state that the park has no value at all to Nairobians, when majority of them live in flats/apartments and slums and the only large place they can relax and get fresh air is that national park. @masukuma do you have the numbers of nairobians who even know a park exists in Nairobi How would they know if the only form of relaxation they know is phombe? Instead of spending 3k on a weekend on phombe, nyama, fish etc why not put 1k fuel in the car and take the family on an afternoon game drive at the park? If you dont have a car you could hire a taxi at 2k for the same, and even KWS has scheduled tour buses for those who do not have cars. City life shouldn't only be about being imprisoned in your apartment or visiting the pub. BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Listen to Hardwood! A clap for you @hardwood. I think @Kusadikika is just being emotional. Do you think if the park is "dissolved", you will get a share of the land? Not likely. The truth is that the same rich guys you mentioned will have it in thousands through proxies and resell it to you at exorbitant prices... That would be the easiest ticket for them to own an additional land.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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AlphDoti wrote:KulaRaha wrote:hardwood wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I think the Nairobi National Park is a total waste of space. In my opinion the whole park should be closed and the land well planned and subdivided for both residential and commercial use. It is of no use kabisa. I do not think even its revenues justify its existence. It is just one of the vestiges of colonization and we keep it because some rich wazungus think it is important but to a majority of Kenyans and especially Nairobians this park has no value at all.
Some MP should begin drafting a law for its dissolution and if that does not work subject the question to a referendum by Nairobians and I am sure majority will vote to do away with it.
We cannot be living in congestion while 28,963 acres are just left out for animals. Even the tourists who come do not come to Nairobi so that they can go to the National Park. Does this mean we have settled (and congested) all lands from syokimau to katani to lukenya, kitengela, isinya, Tuala, Juja farm, kamulu etc etc and the only land available now is Nairobi national park? Also, it is totally wrong to state that the park has no value at all to Nairobians, when majority of them live in flats/apartments and slums and the only large place they can relax and get fresh air is that national park. @masukuma do you have the numbers of nairobians who even know a park exists in Nairobi How would they know if the only form of relaxation they know is phombe? Instead of spending 3k on a weekend on phombe, nyama, fish etc why not put 1k fuel in the car and take the family on an afternoon game drive at the park? If you dont have a car you could hire a taxi at 2k for the same, and even KWS has scheduled tour buses for those who do not have cars. City life shouldn't only be about being imprisoned in your apartment or visiting the pub. BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Listen to Hardwood! A clap for you @hardwood. I think @Kusadikika is just being emotional. Do you think if the park is "dissolved", you will get a share of the land? Not likely. The truth is that the same rich guys you mentioned will have it in thousands through proxies and resell it to you at exorbitant prices... That would be the easiest ticket for them to own an additional land. There is nothing I love more than having my cold tusker at the picnic site within the park on a saturday afternoon with family and friends - and in the company of lions, wildebeestes and rhinos. No need to travel to maasai mara when I have nature on my doorstep. Sad that I am always in the company of msungus and muhindis on such occasions coz the African middle class is drowning in phombe in smoke filled estate pubs at that time.    
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