so when i take my car to the mechanic and they use those machine things to read its ecu and probably code it to do some stuff...my mechanic would need to an ict license to do that?

Respectfully Othello this doesn't feel right in my tummy . In first world I know as long as you have an idea in ICT and never went to school and it looks feasible then you are set.either you will be bought out by a huge company who will pay millions to get your idea rather than having to go through channel of old men to approve your licenses .


Look at Steve Jobs and bill Gates ,they didn't finish damn ICT schools and now they are employing ICT gurus . If they were here in kenya right now with this law they would be wingless eagles .See my point .The problems we have have in Africa is that we clip powers to potential souls .Start a small business and employ 3 people and tell me if kra agents won't be there to audit your books and slap you with tax evasions if you don't cough something little.

I usually use an example of a certain class 6 boy in pokot region was able to make his own hand gun to guard his dad's animals. Guess what, instead of this boy taken to eldoret gun manufacturing company (don't know it's name) to exploit his talent, they put him to cell for several weeks because he is q dangerous criminal.what nonsense is this from a govornment.

Back to my point , if we put these old men in charge of ICT in kenya what are they doing to young vibrant minds surely ? Where is BITANGE NDEMO input in this ? I will really respect his opinion on this matter .He was one of the architect of explosive robust of ict during Kibaki era .I miss this Kibaki govornment and I'm never ashamed to say so.

Hehehehe.
ICT old guards have learnt from the Engineers Board of Kenya (EBK).

The Engineers ACT 2011 is just full of bullcrap, worse than that in this your ICT ACT.

But unlike Engineering where Government has a lot of say, i.e. Tenders, approvals, permits etc, ICT is in the hands of the masses. Most of the clients are private people.

This will fail HARD

This is sad

yeah - by establishment thinkers. These people should take note that in ICT especially software - "there is no country for old thinking".

So BITANGE was part of this bill?screw him

I was worried because i always know him to be way over board . All in all unscrew him then ..

he confirmed the same on some other forum we are on..


so hiyo yote iko kwa 'katimba'

oh come on!!!!!

Are you trying to say that a whole CS did not know that a bill, that would definately cripple the economy, had gone through the first reading in parliament?

Isn't that the meaning of inept?

I don't believe a word that comes out of gov't employees not a word.

This bill was going to sail through parliament hadn't some hawk eyed teen discovered it buried deep in a newspaper advertisement.

I remember the hashtag #babawhenyouwereaway

#bitangewhenyouwereaway some guy in gov't decided that its cool to say that the Kenyan gov't shall not support human rights for people using the internet

#bitangewhenyouwereaway some guy in gov't decided to force everyone with a computer to go sign up to some organisation that no one knows about.

No one is going to get away from this one. If Mucheru is so innocent I'd like him not to hide the name of this "private member" who proposed it. This "private member's" name is like a state secret. No one wants to mention him/her

I would also like the gov't to come clean on exactly who this amorphous group of people calling themselves ITAssociation sijui what really are. Their website doesn't mention who they are, their membership, how they vote or anything. Other than the fact that every young Kenyan who enters a cyber must pay them 5k per year.

There is only one statement we want from the CS and gov't officials. The Digital gov't has killed this bill.

Not negotiating about a bill. This bill needs to go PERIOD!!

The Jubilee gov't can kill it in the committee stage PERIOD!!

Not using semantics and blaming the boogeyman no one seems to know about.

Boss - what you believe is immaterial to the facts. Karibu Kenya - your Katimba is the one that permits this. It's not a government sponsored bill - that is clear. it did not pass though the executive. of course there are old establishment types looking at cashing in on this. You too can draft a bill and give your MP to front it. Karibu kwa katimba mpya - GOK is not the only originator of bills. Why do you want him to tell you who the private member is? si you stop throwing tantums and find out yourself - it's not a state secret.