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Forceful fatherhood
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#21 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2016 4:28:46 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Badly thought rule. If it has to be, it will torment single mothers who harbour hopes of being married. Now, you do not want to marry a girl who has a child with a name of another man.

Doesn't that man already know that the child belongs to another man? The name can also be changed to the new man.

Like Barack Hussein O̶b̶a̶m̶a̶ Soetoro
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
masukuma
#22 Posted : Friday, May 27, 2016 6:51:13 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
While English is a great language it's a bit challenged when it comes to properly defining relationships. In Swahili we have mzazi and mlezi. Which "father" are we talking about? At time of birth the father we are interested in is the "mzazi" - a good to know fact. The most important "father" however is the "mlezi" and from personal encounters with individuals who have had great "mlezi" and still don't know their "mzazi" there is always a question mark. This is not to remove anything from the "mlezi" but just a yearning for identity. This really disappoints the mothers who go all the way to make their kids happy. I think it's good for a child to know both.


I think the problem is not with English but with our comprehension of it. It is not our native language anyway. 'Father' as a noun is a male parent. All of us tend to limit it to the verb only. 'Parent' is much wider than biological begetting only and includes that mlezi part. That said, is this a brain child of kilimani moms?

you are right.
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#23 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2016 12:52:52 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
While English is a great language it's a bit challenged when it comes to properly defining relationships. In Swahili we have mzazi and mlezi. Which "father" are we talking about? At time of birth the father we are interested in is the "mzazi" - a good to know fact. The most important "father" however is the "mlezi" and from personal encounters with individuals who have had great "mlezi" and still don't know their "mzazi" there is always a question mark. This is not to remove anything from the "mlezi" but just a yearning for identity. This really disappoints the mothers who go all the way to make their kids happy. I think it's good for a child to know both.


I think the problem is not with English but with our comprehension of it. It is not our native language anyway. 'Father' as a noun is a male parent. All of us tend to limit it to the verb only. 'Parent' is much wider than biological begetting only and includes that mlezi part. That said, is this a brain child of kilimani moms?

you are right.

Unless yours is very unique name, you have no reason to worry, you can be dead beat bila issue, not that kamau, but can the dad challenge the name by asking for a DNA test
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#24 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:38:46 PM
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kayhara wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
While English is a great language it's a bit challenged when it comes to properly defining relationships. In Swahili we have mzazi and mlezi. Which "father" are we talking about? At time of birth the father we are interested in is the "mzazi" - a good to know fact. The most important "father" however is the "mlezi" and from personal encounters with individuals who have had great "mlezi" and still don't know their "mzazi" there is always a question mark. This is not to remove anything from the "mlezi" but just a yearning for identity. This really disappoints the mothers who go all the way to make their kids happy. I think it's good for a child to know both.


I think the problem is not with English but with our comprehension of it. It is not our native language anyway. 'Father' as a noun is a male parent. All of us tend to limit it to the verb only. 'Parent' is much wider than biological begetting only and includes that mlezi part. That said, is this a brain child of kilimani moms?

you are right.

Unless yours is very unique name, you have no reason to worry, you can be dead beat bila issue, not that kamau, but can the dad challenge the name by asking for a DNA test

Your ID number is also registered meaning you are legally responsible for that child. Now if you are the father of a child and you are taken to court utajua you have to worry.
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