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Cfc Stanbic Kenya FY 2015 Profit drops by 14%
Ericsson
#21 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 4:45:10 PM
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Toa hiyo news ya CFCStanbic hapa.We don't need Yuan in wazua
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sparkly
#22 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:23:03 PM
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@pesanane
Toa hiyo news ya CFCStanbic hapa.We don't need Yuan in wazua

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Gatheuzi
#23 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:38:09 PM
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It was only a matter of time before the bank reverted to Stanbic Bank. The "CFC" prefix was only to allow for cfc bank clients adopt to the changes that came with the merger.
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:27:28 PM
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Running an advert that you can borrow up to 80% of your savings.
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newfarer
#25 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:03:49 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Running an advert that you can borrow up to 80% of your savings.

A Sacco gives 3 times, and 10% dividend.
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sparkly
#26 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:55:25 AM
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newfarer wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Running an advert that you can borrow up to 80% of your savings.

A Sacco gives 3 times, and 10% dividend.


someone is crazy to borrow 80% of his/her money at 24% rather than just withdraw the savings
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Aguytrying
#27 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:35:22 PM
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sparkly wrote:
newfarer wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Running an advert that you can borrow up to 80% of your savings.

A Sacco gives 3 times, and 10% dividend.


someone is crazy to borrow 80% of his/her money at 24% rather than just withdraw the savings


Sometimes banks take us for fools. Im speechless
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#28 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:39:18 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
newfarer wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Running an advert that you can borrow up to 80% of your savings.

A Sacco gives 3 times, and 10% dividend.


someone is crazy to borrow 80% of his/her money at 24% rather than just withdraw the savings


Sometimes banks take us for fools. Im speechless

It happens. Many put fixed deposits and then borrow a %age of it. That is how people make profits and earn dividends and bonuses. smile
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obiero
#29 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:12:58 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
newfarer wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Running an advert that you can borrow up to 80% of your savings.

A Sacco gives 3 times, and 10% dividend.


someone is crazy to borrow 80% of his/her money at 24% rather than just withdraw the savings


Sometimes banks take us for fools. Im speechless

It happens. Many put fixed deposits and then borrow a %age of it. That is how people make profits and earn dividends and bonuses. smile

The interest rate applied could never be 24% unless the FD rate is about 20%. It is a margin of the FD and not normal bank rate. Further, the same is a tax avoidance strategy that is legal in nature

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sparkly
#30 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:21:37 PM
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obiero wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
sparkly wrote:
newfarer wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Running an advert that you can borrow up to 80% of your savings.

A Sacco gives 3 times, and 10% dividend.


someone is crazy to borrow 80% of his/her money at 24% rather than just withdraw the savings


Sometimes banks take us for fools. Im speechless

It happens. Many put fixed deposits and then borrow a %age of it. That is how people make profits and earn dividends and bonuses. smile

The interest rate applied could never be 24% unless the FD rate is about 20%. It is a margin of the FD and not normal bank rate. Further, the same is a tax avoidance strategy that is legal in nature


I am lost. How do you make money by borrowing against your cash deposits, considering the interest rate spread?
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streetwise
#31 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:30:49 PM
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This is how , let’s assume you deposit 100K @ interest rate of 7%.

The you borrow 80K at interest of 24%.

You are effectively paying an interest of 17% and will eventually get your money back.

So essentially you are enjoying like the banks would say a lower interest.

newfarer
#32 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:05:23 PM
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streetwise wrote:
This is how , let’s assume you deposit 100K @ interest rate of 7%.

The you borrow 80K at interest of 24%.

You are effectively paying an interest of 17% and will eventually get your money back.

So essentially you are enjoying like the banks would say a lower interest.


Why not withdraw your 80000 and pay 0% interest instead of 17% then repay your 80000 back to your account instead of repaying the bank loan?
punda amecheka
sparkly
#33 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 7:25:39 AM
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newfarer wrote:
streetwise wrote:
This is how , let’s assume you deposit 100K @ interest rate of 7%.

The you borrow 80K at interest of 24%.

You are effectively paying an interest of 17% and will eventually get your money back.

So essentially you are enjoying like the banks would say a lower interest.


Why not withdraw your 80000 and pay 0% interest instead of 17% then repay your 80000 back to your account instead of repaying the bank loan?


Exactly! Why borrow your own money at 17%?
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streetwise
#34 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 8:28:39 AM
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It encourages you to keep your 1M. If you withdraw the 800K , the chances that you will recreate it are very low.

Let me ask you why don't you sell your house instead of taking what they call asset release to do business. Simply because after you repay the loan your house will be left standing

sparkly
#35 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 7:09:30 AM
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streetwise wrote:
It encourages you to keep your 1M. If you withdraw the 800K , the chances that you will recreate it are very low.

Let me ask you why don't you sell your house instead of taking what they call asset release to do business. Simply because after you repay the loan your house will be left standing



@streetwise let's say that I agree with you. Let us do it practically. Send me KShs 1 million today (or whatever you can manage). I will send you back KShs 800k at 10% interest which is lower than what all banks are offering. Come for the KShs 1m when you finish repaying the KShs 800k.
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#36 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 9:57:48 AM
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sparkly wrote:
streetwise wrote:
It encourages you to keep your 1M. If you withdraw the 800K , the chances that you will recreate it are very low.

Let me ask you why don't you sell your house instead of taking what they call asset release to do business. Simply because after you repay the loan your house will be left standing



@streetwise let's say that I agree with you. Let us do it practically. Send me KShs 1 million today (or whatever you can manage). I will send you back KShs 800k at 10% interest which is lower than what all banks are offering. Come for the KShs 1m when you finish repaying the KShs 800k.
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#37 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 10:36:45 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
streetwise wrote:
It encourages you to keep your 1M. If you withdraw the 800K , the chances that you will recreate it are very low.

Let me ask you why don't you sell your house instead of taking what they call asset release to do business. Simply because after you repay the loan your house will be left standing



@streetwise let's say that I agree with you. Let us do it practically. Send me KShs 1 million today (or whatever you can manage). I will send you back KShs 800k at 10% interest which is lower than what all banks are offering. Come for the KShs 1m when you finish repaying the KShs 800k.
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#38 Posted : Friday, July 29, 2016 11:44:45 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
It was only a matter of time before the bank reverted to Stanbic Bank. The "CFC" prefix was only to allow for cfc bank clients adopt to the changes that came with the merger.


Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#39 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:56:23 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
sparkly
#40 Posted : Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:43:57 AM
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obiero wrote:
mugo2of3 wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
if u know whats good for you, stay away from this one. thank me later


@Obiero you are simply unbelievable. Asking people to stay away from CFC with at 80/= with PE 6.7, DY 7.6% and Shareholders Equity KShs 36B. At the same time telling people to buy KQ?


I also fail to understand this kind of advice. Wazua is a sharing platform, if you are privy to something that we are not aware of kindly be forthcoming...

I have advised no one to buy KQ. I actually sold my KQ in bulk early this year.. I js put info on the table, its anyone here to choose whether to eat or not


Those who chose to eat Stanbic are enjoying.
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