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Chamas Don't Work
Bachuma Gate
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:47:10 PM
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Seconded. They don't work. For eating mbuzi boooze and mchango.
DOH
digitek1
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:23:35 PM
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this thread was just a matter of time after the T29 sagaLaughing out loudly
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
Impunity
#13 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:01:49 PM
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kayhara wrote:
Gospel,I refused to join many guys still there contributing 5k to give to one guy.


I think this type was left to the village women folk? Where you contribute monthly for a member..if you are member no. 50, ole wako; by the time wakufikie only 5 members would be left.
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wazuaguest
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:20:40 PM
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This things dont work.
Ours failed.Case study of a successful one?
Africa belongs to Africans.
Ethiteri
#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:48:45 PM
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wazuaguest wrote:
This things dont work.
Ours failed.Case study of a successful one?



Let me give our case and you can decide if it is successful

Started as 10 pax in year 2000.Today we are 4 with 2 members falling out due to financial constraints,2 falling out coz they got married and hubby said no to chamas and 2 are on their way out coz they seem not to cope with other members.

The remaining 4 are recruiting new members to take it back to original membership.

First 5 years was contributions and buying members households,birthday gifts and being part of each others social activities(weddings/funerals/births).

With the savings of the 5 years we bought 5 acres at Isinya at 800k and we each got half an acre.Departing members have sold their pieces at 2.4M

We then bought land in Nakuru and sold after 3 years.No much gain.

We then bought an apartment at Pangani and took a loan on it.We have just finished paying the loan.

We are currently looking for a ready made house in Kasarani or Embakassi with 20 units which will gurantee each member 2 units if we are 10 or 5 units if we remain 4.Our bank is willing to give us upto 40M for the property.

We raise 10k monthly.
Swenani
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:51:15 PM
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wazuaguest wrote:
This things dont work.
Ours failed.Case study of a successful one?


Ours. Group of 5 friends

Investment limited to land, subdivided and move on...It's upon individual members to decide to do with their individual land allocated to them.

5 years and going on strong
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Othelo
#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:58:31 PM
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Ethiteri wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
This things dont work.
Ours failed.Case study of a successful one?



Let me give our case and you can decide if it is successful

Started as 10 pax in year 2000.Today we are 4 with 2 members falling out due to financial constraints,2 falling out coz they got married and hubby said no to chamas and 2 are on their way out coz they seem not to cope with other members.

The remaining 4 are recruiting new members to take it back to original membership.

First 5 years was contributions and buying members households,birthday gifts and being part of each others social activities(weddings/funerals/births).

With the savings of the 5 years we bought 5 acres at Isinya at 800k and we each got half an acre.Departing members have sold their pieces at 2.4M

We then bought land in Nakuru and sold after 3 years.No much gain.

We then bought an apartment at Pangani and took a loan on it.We have just finished paying the loan.

We are currently looking for a ready made house in Kasarani or Embakassi with 20 units which will gurantee each member 2 units if we are 10 or 4 units if we remain 4.Our bank is willing to give us upto 40M for the property.

We raise 10k monthly.

You are women ............. ooops sorry!!!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
murchr
#18 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:27:55 PM
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wazuaguest wrote:
This things dont work.
Ours failed.Case study of a successful one?


The one am in started in 2005 20 people (couples). One couple left in the initial stages due to financial difficulties/obligations. Like many Kenyans, most of us did not read and synthesize the terms of MOU and in it, we have a clause that once you exit you get 85% of contribution(not gains realized from investments). The couple that exited was not pleased. The rest love money just too much to let go of 15% Laughing out loudly

Investments are in land, shares in various Saccos and NSE
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enyands
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:04:34 AM
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murchr wrote:
wazuaguest wrote:
This things dont work.
Ours failed.Case study of a successful one?


The one am in started in 2005 20 people (couples). One couple left in the initial stages due to financial difficulties/obligations. Like many Kenyans, most of us did not read and synthesize the terms of MOU and in it, we have a clause that once you exit you get 85% of contribution(not gains realized from investments). The couple that exited was not pleased. The rest love money just too much to let go of 15% Laughing out loudly

Investments are in land, shares in various Saccos and NSE


Getate/susu/merry-go-round /chama all are just social welfare committees where petty politics and gossips are talked of. The only unifying factor is money contribution ,if that's not honored then a thin line between love and hate is defined clearly .I find them more feasible for small scale business who banking can be a challenge . That's just me
gatoho
#20 Posted : Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:44:40 AM
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Location: kandara, Murang'a
One word for you anti chamas. ITRADE. like mindedness a must
Foresight..
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