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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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innairobi wrote:hahaha. utazoea mwafrika my friend.
made the mistake of not giving my kid a 'christian' or 'english' name. the curious stares and questions we received from friends and relatives always cracked me up. ukipeleka mtoto clinic, the nurses ask when you intend to give the kid 'that other name' hehehe. Kwanza these yuckish names we give kids these days. Borrowed from North America & Europe, some fellows believe you aren't Christian enough if you don't have some of these mitumba names. I call them mitumba because I just don't get why we should fall over ourselves competing on who comes up with the hottest name for their baby when all those names are just borrowed from another culture and mostly have zilch to do with your faith 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,923
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Lolest! wrote:innairobi wrote:hahaha. utazoea mwafrika my friend.
made the mistake of not giving my kid a 'christian' or 'english' name. the curious stares and questions we received from friends and relatives always cracked me up. ukipeleka mtoto clinic, the nurses ask when you intend to give the kid 'that other name' hehehe. Kwanza these yuckish names we give kids these days. Borrowed from North America & Europe, some fellows believe you aren't Christian enough if you don't have some of these mitumba names. I call them mitumba because I just don't get why we should fall over ourselves competing on who comes up with the hottest name for their baby when all those names are just borrowed from another culture and mostly have zilch to do with your faith Why do you say it was a mistake? For me, that is a choice!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Some of the religions/churches we follow have queer beginings. Take the Anglican (Church of England) church for example. King Edward the 8th of England wanted to divorce his wife and marry his mpango about 500yrs ago. Then England was 100pc catholic but the pope refused to dissolve the marriage and the king decided to have his way and broke away from Rome , i.e the Catholic church so that he could marry his gacungwa and kula vitu. And declared himself head of the new church of England. He then took over and sold all the assets of the catholic church in England and cut off all relation with Rome. Why should an individual's earthly carnal cravings determine the spiritual path that you take. 500 yrs later. It was King Henry the eighth not Edward. Again saying that getting an heir via a marriage without papal consent is like a hyperbole. Church history is more intricate than that. The other thing is that you are passing a value judgment on an action. But what's the basis of this judgment? Is it innate and universal? How did you pick it up?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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innairobi wrote:hahaha. utazoea mwafrika my friend.
made the mistake of not giving my kid a 'christian' or 'english' name. the curious stares and questions we received from friends and relatives always cracked me up. ukipeleka mtoto clinic, the nurses ask when you intend to give the kid 'that other name' hehehe. That also happened to me. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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These thoughts and sentiments work to make us imbibe mind poisons; and the doctor is also killed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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problem with nwyele ngumu is they will still flock mecca next year even after the saudi prince talked trash about them! i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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We worship by choice...nobody is being forced I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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harrydre wrote:problem with nwyele ngumu is they will still flock mecca next year even after the saudi prince talked trash about them! the saudi prince is not their god. Their god is Allah
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Laments of 'so and so does not like us' or 'this race does not like Africans' always leave me a bit irritated. The need to be liked or respected is bondage. Africans shouldn't care that whites, asians or arabs don't like us, as long as they do not harm us or violate rights it is irrelevant (if this is not the case, this is a matter for the law). Respect especially, is not something you can demand. Being paid respect comes in part from respecting yourself, which in great part also constitutes not whining after other people's favor and affection.
Ability is a currency that is respected everywhere, and we are capable of it. Remember that spell when Kenya didn't need IFC/IMF loans to balance its recurrent budget? Those 2 arrogant institutions got uncomfortable and took notice. I was also proud of Kibaki when western diplomats suddenly found themselves with no levers to push with State House. Just goes to show ...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:Laments of 'so and so does not like us' or 'this race does not like Africans' always leave me a bit irritated. The need to be liked or respected is bondage. Africans shouldn't care that whites, asians or arabs don't like us, as long as they do not harm us or violate rights it is irrelevant (if this is not the case, this is a matter for the law). Respect especially, is not something you can demand. Being paid respect comes in part from respecting yourself, which in great part also constitutes not whining after other people's favor and affection.
Ability is a currency that is respected everywhere, and we are capable of it. Remember that spell when Kenya didn't need IFC/IMF loans to balance its recurrent budget? Those 2 arrogant institutions got uncomfortable and took notice. I was also proud of Kibaki when western diplomats suddenly found themselves with no levers to push with State House. Just goes to show ... Good thinking.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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Lolest! wrote:harrydre wrote:problem with nwyele ngumu is they will still flock mecca next year even after the saudi prince talked trash about them! the saudi prince is not their god. Their god is Allah 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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hajj-stampede-africa-deserves-unreserved-apology-from-the-prince-and-saudi-authority
African Pilgrims were treated like thrashthose pictures say it all The same questions the survivors are asking and the comments at the tail end of the article "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Numbers do not lie Pakistan 236 Iran 131 Morocco 87 Egypt 14 India 14 Nigeria 6 Senegal 5 Indonesia 3 Kenya 3 China 1 Netherlands 1 Philippines 1 i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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harrydre wrote:Numbers do not lie
Pakistan 236
Iran 131
Morocco 87
Egypt 14
India 14
Nigeria 6
Senegal 5
Indonesia 3
Kenya 3
China 1
Netherlands 1
Philippines 1 Despite the numbers, the trigger could still have been Africans. Ratios also matter in terms of overall attendance! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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 Quote:cartoon: #Saudi king: "every where is safe & sound"
#MinaStampede #HajjStampede #Hajj2015 #Iran موقع مشرق نیوز الإخباری و التحلیلی "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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harrydre wrote:Numbers do not lie
Pakistan 236
Iran 131
Morocco 87
Egypt 14
India 14
Nigeria 6
Senegal 5
Indonesia 3
Kenya 3
China 1
Netherlands 1
Philippines 1 FACT CHECK SOURCES Quote:The National Hajj Commission of Nigeria has confirmed the death of 54 Nigerians in the deadly stampede in Mina, Saudi Arabia, during this year’s Hajj.
The Chairman of NAHCO, Alhaji Abdullahi Muktar Mohammed, made the confirmation on Monday morning (12:16 am) in Makkah.
According to him, 42 out of the 54 that died were from states pilgrims welfare board including two NAHCON officials, while others were among those on the pilgrimage by private tour operators.
He also listed 15 states of Bauchi, Borno, Zamfara, Cross River, Jigawa, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Nasarawa, Niger, Ogun, Ondo, Sokoto, Taraba and Yobe as those that lost pilgrims to the stampede.
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Some of the religions/churches we follow have queer beginings. Take the Anglican (Church of England) church for example. King Edward the 8th of England wanted to divorce his wife and marry his mpango about 500yrs ago. Then England was 100pc catholic but the pope refused to dissolve the marriage and the king decided to have his way and broke away from Rome , i.e the Catholic church so that he could marry his gacungwa and kula vitu. And declared himself head of the new church of England. He then took over and sold all the assets of the catholic church in England and cut off all relation with Rome. Why should an individual's earthly carnal cravings determine the spiritual path that you take. 500 yrs later. by the way that decision has had multiple repercussions.. the proper escalation of beef with the irish can be traced to this decision. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2012 Posts: 180
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hardwood wrote:Some of the religions/churches we follow have queer beginings. Take the Anglican (Church of England) church for example. King Edward the 8th of England wanted to divorce his wife and marry his mpango about 500yrs ago. Then England was 100pc catholic but the pope refused to dissolve the marriage and the king decided to have his way and broke away from Rome , i.e the Catholic church so that he could marry his gacungwa and kula vitu. And declared himself head of the new church of England. He then took over and sold all the assets of the catholic church in England and cut off all relation with Rome. Why should an individual's earthly carnal cravings determine the spiritual path that you take. 500 yrs later. @ Hardwood, But also why should an individual's (David's) earthly carnal cravings (Uriah's wife, out of which King Solomon was born) determine the spiritual path that you take. 2500 yrs later? Eagles don't flock, you have to find them one at a time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Some of the religions/churches we follow have queer beginings. Take the Anglican (Church of England) church for example. King Edward the 8th of England wanted to divorce his wife and marry his mpango about 500yrs ago. Then England was 100pc catholic but the pope refused to dissolve the marriage and the king decided to have his way and broke away from Rome , i.e the Catholic church so that he could marry his gacungwa and kula vitu. And declared himself head of the new church of England. He then took over and sold all the assets of the catholic church in England and cut off all relation with Rome. Why should an individual's earthly carnal cravings determine the spiritual path that you take. 500 yrs later. by the way that decision has had multiple repercussions.. the proper escalation of beef with the irish can be traced to this decision. And when the mpango gave birth to baby girls instead of the coveted boy he cut off her head. Worse than ISIS It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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