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majimaji wrote:masukuma wrote:guru267 wrote:
The languages of God's revelation is Syriac(Abraham pbuh spoke this). This language gave birth to Hebrew (Moses pbuh spoke this, Aramaic (Jesus pbuh spoke this) and Arabic (Muhammad pbuh spoke this)
But the reason we all speak Arabic is not to make God happy but for the same reason we face Mecca when we pray... UNITY
That's why I say Islam is a better 'designed' religion. within it there are features that enable it's self propagation within. It creates a culture of sorts that enables people to do certain things at certain times to remind themselves that they are muslims... Do you make prayers in fursa? Do muslims everywhere make prayers in fursa? Coz some versions of Arabic kama Juba Arabic are so different that Fursa speakers get nothing! ama bora inaitwa Kiarabu - you are good to go? Did people at the coast pray in swahili at the turn of the 19th century (as it was written in arabic script) ? Arabic is the language with the largest number of speakers in Africa and the most widespread. Arabic has borrowed and given many words in many regions. yeah.... but what has that got to do with the question raised? my question is... do people make prayers in Fursa (classical arabic) or in whatever dialect of arabic that is spoken in their area! Egyptian Arabic is different from Saudi/Yemeni Arabic. Tunisian arabic is different still. When you come south - Juba Arabic is very different from classical arabic - I guess the same will be said about Arabic in Zanzibar and as far south as Comoros... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:majimaji wrote:masukuma wrote:guru267 wrote:
The languages of God's revelation is Syriac(Abraham pbuh spoke this). This language gave birth to Hebrew (Moses pbuh spoke this, Aramaic (Jesus pbuh spoke this) and Arabic (Muhammad pbuh spoke this)
But the reason we all speak Arabic is not to make God happy but for the same reason we face Mecca when we pray... UNITY
That's why I say Islam is a better 'designed' religion. within it there are features that enable it's self propagation within. It creates a culture of sorts that enables people to do certain things at certain times to remind themselves that they are muslims... Do you make prayers in fursa? Do muslims everywhere make prayers in fursa? Coz some versions of Arabic kama Juba Arabic are so different that Fursa speakers get nothing! ama bora inaitwa Kiarabu - you are good to go? Did people at the coast pray in swahili at the turn of the 19th century (as it was written in arabic script) ? Arabic is the language with the largest number of speakers in Africa and the most widespread. Arabic has borrowed and given many words in many regions. yeah.... but what has that got to do with the question raised? my question is... do people make prayers in Fursa (classical arabic) or in whatever dialect of arabic that is spoken in their area! Egyptian Arabic is different from Saudi/Yemeni Arabic. Tunisian arabic is different still. When you come south - Juba Arabic is very different from classical arabic - I guess the same will be said about Arabic in Zanzibar and as far south as Comoros... Muslim prayer is done in ANCIENT (classical) Arabic. All Muslims whether in Egypt or Saudia or Kenya or South Africa or America etc, all Muslims pray using CLASSICAL Arabic. When people study Arabic, we study STANDARD Arabic, because ancient Arabic has complex grammar. But you can make PERSONAL dua/prayer in any language you want e.g. Kalenjin, Luhyia, Kisii, Kikuyu, Kamba etc. Also, each of the Arabic countries have their own dialect of Arabic.
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Walikuwa wanapiga saitani mawe
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Uram wrote:Walikuwa wanapiga saitani mawe Somehow feels  Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:majimaji wrote:masukuma wrote:guru267 wrote:
The languages of God's revelation is Syriac(Abraham pbuh spoke this). This language gave birth to Hebrew (Moses pbuh spoke this, Aramaic (Jesus pbuh spoke this) and Arabic (Muhammad pbuh spoke this)
But the reason we all speak Arabic is not to make God happy but for the same reason we face Mecca when we pray... UNITY
That's why I say Islam is a better 'designed' religion. within it there are features that enable it's self propagation within. It creates a culture of sorts that enables people to do certain things at certain times to remind themselves that they are muslims... Do you make prayers in fursa? Do muslims everywhere make prayers in fursa? Coz some versions of Arabic kama Juba Arabic are so different that Fursa speakers get nothing! ama bora inaitwa Kiarabu - you are good to go? Did people at the coast pray in swahili at the turn of the 19th century (as it was written in arabic script) ? Arabic is the language with the largest number of speakers in Africa and the most widespread. Arabic has borrowed and given many words in many regions. yeah.... but what has that got to do with the question raised? my question is... do people make prayers in Fursa (classical arabic) or in whatever dialect of arabic that is spoken in their area! Egyptian Arabic is different from Saudi/Yemeni Arabic. Tunisian arabic is different still. When you come south - Juba Arabic is very different from classical arabic - I guess the same will be said about Arabic in Zanzibar and as far south as Comoros... Muslim prayer is done in ANCIENT (classical) Arabic. All Muslims whether in Egypt or Saudia or Kenya or South Africa or America etc, all Muslims pray using CLASSICAL Arabic. When people study Arabic, we study STANDARD Arabic, because ancient Arabic has complex grammar. But you can make PERSONAL dua/prayer in any language you want e.g. Kalenjin, Luhyia, Kisii, Kikuyu, Kamba etc. Also, each of the Arabic countries have their own dialect of Arabic. So it's kinda a prerequistite to learn arabic before becoming an effective muslim ama? because if you don't the non personal prayers would be like chants right? it would mean that it's likely most people don't really understand the words they are chanting coz it's in deep complex ancient arabic. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:majimaji wrote:masukuma wrote:guru267 wrote:
The languages of God's revelation is Syriac(Abraham pbuh spoke this). This language gave birth to Hebrew (Moses pbuh spoke this, Aramaic (Jesus pbuh spoke this) and Arabic (Muhammad pbuh spoke this)
But the reason we all speak Arabic is not to make God happy but for the same reason we face Mecca when we pray... UNITY
That's why I say Islam is a better 'designed' religion. within it there are features that enable it's self propagation within. It creates a culture of sorts that enables people to do certain things at certain times to remind themselves that they are muslims... Do you make prayers in fursa? Do muslims everywhere make prayers in fursa? Coz some versions of Arabic kama Juba Arabic are so different that Fursa speakers get nothing! ama bora inaitwa Kiarabu - you are good to go? Did people at the coast pray in swahili at the turn of the 19th century (as it was written in arabic script) ? Arabic is the language with the largest number of speakers in Africa and the most widespread. Arabic has borrowed and given many words in many regions. yeah.... but what has that got to do with the question raised? my question is... do people make prayers in Fursa (classical arabic) or in whatever dialect of arabic that is spoken in their area! Egyptian Arabic is different from Saudi/Yemeni Arabic. Tunisian arabic is different still. When you come south - Juba Arabic is very different from classical arabic - I guess the same will be said about Arabic in Zanzibar and as far south as Comoros... Muslim prayer is done in ANCIENT (classical) Arabic. All Muslims whether in Egypt or Saudia or Kenya or South Africa or America etc, all Muslims pray using CLASSICAL Arabic. When people study Arabic, we study STANDARD Arabic, because ancient Arabic has complex grammar. But you can make PERSONAL dua/prayer in any language you want e.g. Kalenjin, Luhyia, Kisii, Kikuyu, Kamba etc. Also, each of the Arabic countries have their own dialect of Arabic. So it's kinda a prerequistite to learn arabic before becoming an effective muslim ama? because if you don't the non personal prayers would be like chants right? it would mean that it's likely most people don't really understand the words they are chanting coz it's in deep complex ancient arabic. Obvious spamming is obvious!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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by the way... is it possible to review that devil stoning exercise? since it's counter productive! the devil is there to be stoned each year but not all the stoners manage to survive the stoning. Watu wanalipa fare kubwa halafu wanakufa wakirushia saitan mawe? since saitan is not omnipresent - labda saa hiyo ako Brazil! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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masukuma wrote:by the way... is it possible to review that devil stoning exercise? since it's counter productive! the devil is there to be stoned each year but not all the stoners manage to survive the stoning. Watu wanalipa fare kubwa halafu wanakufa wakirushia saitan mawe? since saitan is not omnipresent - labda saa hiyo ako Brazil!  too many unnecessary deaths in the muslim world.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Taurrus wrote:masukuma wrote:by the way... is it possible to review that devil stoning exercise? since it's counter productive! the devil is there to be stoned each year but not all the stoners manage to survive the stoning. Watu wanalipa fare kubwa halafu wanakufa wakirushia saitan mawe? since saitan is not omnipresent - labda saa hiyo ako Brazil! too many unnecessary deaths in the muslim world. What are kina @Alpha and @guru has to say? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Taurrus wrote:masukuma wrote:by the way... is it possible to review that devil stoning exercise? since it's counter productive! the devil is there to be stoned each year but not all the stoners manage to survive the stoning. Watu wanalipa fare kubwa halafu wanakufa wakirushia saitan mawe? since saitan is not omnipresent - labda saa hiyo ako Brazil! too many unnecessary deaths in the muslim world. Improbable. 1. A crane operated by the Bin Laden group collapses on 9/11. 2. A fire last week on Thursday. 3. A stampede today.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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¿ wrote:Taurrus wrote:masukuma wrote:by the way... is it possible to review that devil stoning exercise? since it's counter productive! the devil is there to be stoned each year but not all the stoners manage to survive the stoning. Watu wanalipa fare kubwa halafu wanakufa wakirushia saitan mawe? since saitan is not omnipresent - labda saa hiyo ako Brazil! too many unnecessary deaths in the muslim world. Improbable. 1. A crane operated by the Bin Laden group collapses on 9/11. 2. A fire last week on Thursday. 3. A stampede today. The number is now over 700 dead, the worst ever stampede in that area, I suppose. Rink: BBC Breaking. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:¿ wrote:Taurrus wrote:masukuma wrote:by the way... is it possible to review that devil stoning exercise? since it's counter productive! the devil is there to be stoned each year but not all the stoners manage to survive the stoning. Watu wanalipa fare kubwa halafu wanakufa wakirushia saitan mawe? since saitan is not omnipresent - labda saa hiyo ako Brazil! too many unnecessary deaths in the muslim world. Improbable. 1. A crane operated by the Bin Laden group collapses on 9/11. 2. A fire last week on Thursday. 3. A stampede today. The number is now over 700 dead, the worst ever stampede in that area, I suppose. Rink: BBC Breaking. in 1990 over 1,400 people crocked stoning a devil that is always being stoned! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Quote:The head of Iran's Hajj organisation, Said Ohadi, said the incident was caused by the authorities' decision to close two paths near the scene of the symbolic 'stoning of the devil' ritual. "Today's incident shows mismanagement and lack of serious attention to the safety of pilgrims. There is no other explanation. The Saudi officials should be held accountable," he said on Iranian state television according to AFP. Enough Said! i.am.back!!!!
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 and the way "we defend" some of these people
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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¿ wrote:
Improbable.
1. A crane operated by the Bin Laden group collapses on 9/11.
2. A fire last week on Thursday.
3. A stampede today.
4. A sudden rise in stupidity and carelessness among the Saudis and the pilgrims.
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Why don't they just bind the devil? Is it not easier? Perhaps he is used to being bound in tongues he might be shocked out of this world if he is bound in Arabic.
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they are probably right about Africans. i've said it here before that religious Africans are usually more extreme, berserk and brainwashed than the people who introduced them to those religions. what's amusing is Africans will always be seen as inferior by the real owners of those religions. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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