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KCB Mpesa account loans starting from 24%pa
radio
#21 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:24:46 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Wakora muno muno muno.... Interest is charged upfront and loan amount sits with KCB until you transfer to mpesa. Very clever!!!


1m to Mpesa?
sparkly
#22 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:32:12 PM
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The last time I approached a bank to take a business loan, they had crazy conditions for collateral. Is it really this easy?
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bird_man
#23 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:51:21 PM
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sparkly wrote:
The last time I approached a bank to take a business loan, they had crazy conditions for collateral. Is it really this easy?

Of course not,those are just marketing stories.
Actually this KCB thing might be more expensive when you consider account-mpesa charges.
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target1360
#24 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:57:15 PM
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bird_man wrote:
sparkly wrote:
The last time I approached a bank to take a business loan, they had crazy conditions for collateral. Is it really this easy?

Of course not,those are just marketing stories.
Actually this KCB thing might be more expensive when you consider account-mpesa charges.

i dialled that 844~ thing and got a text that i can borrow upto sh 1000.
factoring in withdrawal charges from kcb to mpesa of approx sh 55 and sh 27 being mpesa withrawal charges plus sh 20 being interest for a month.
total payments =sh 102
102/1000*100%=10.2%
basically unless thet qualify you for bigger sums then this seems expensive to me.
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hindi ni riu
#25 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:32:24 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
growing wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Waaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

You can borrow from Kes. 50 up to Kes. 1,000,000 and pay within a month to 6 months.
Interest rate starts from as low as 2% (contrast to Msuruari 7.5% one off?)

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Rink

2% per month, that's equivalent to 24% per annum

safcom is leading banks to be real shylocks,2% is 24% p.a very expensive to the educated but very cheap to the lay man


Consider the hussles you undergo in a normal process to prochiwa say a mere loan of Kes. 500,000?
With this arrangement however you get this done on the comfort of your sofa set while watching cartoons and sipping bone soup.

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Do you even know the meaning of time value of money?


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Kausha
#26 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:58:54 PM
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I saw this and wondered where is the product because what was on offer didn't look like a product unless the two esteemed institutions presumed the audience were monkeys in a financial zoo!! You cant call a 24% loan a product when you are also suppossed to save compulsorily and earn 6%.

Financial literacy must be too low for one to buy this. pity those who have to push the product.
Kausha
#27 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:00:51 PM
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I saw this and wondered where is the product because what was on offer didn't look like a product unless the two esteemed institutions presumed the audience were monkeys in a financial zoo!! You cant call a 24% loan a product when you are also suppossed to save compulsorily and earn 6%.

Financial literacy must be too low for one to buy this. pity those who have to push the product.
streetwise
#28 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:45:54 PM
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They should have said at lower than 1% per day.

See how that sounds nice.
Othelo
#29 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 5:13:58 PM
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@Kausha you dont have to save to qualify, though saving increases the loan limit you qualify for.

@Radio, what i meant is ..... in mshwari once you request for the loan and its is approved, the funds are deposited directly to your mpesa account. Whereas in the KCB *844# loan system, they first create a KCB-Mpesa account where the funds are held. You must transfer manually to your mpesa account. For amounts above 50k, you will have to open a KCB account where you will still need to transfer the funds to from the KCB-Mpesa account.

@streetwise .... imagine even .1% per day is still high - reapoff!

@all........... for one off emergencies for small amounts of upto 20k, better than shylocks!!!
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#30 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2015 7:31:32 PM
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K.C.B already has mobile banking (M-benki)on *522#, which gives "mobi loans" at the same usurious rates as m-shwari why not use that but tell customers they've lowered rates.But I guess they want to squeeze safaricom's brand name for all it's worth while still charging higher rates on the old products.Banksters!
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#31 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 5:50:29 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Wakora muno muno muno.... Interest is charged upfront and loan amount sits with KCB until you transfer to mpesa. Very clever!!!

I've confirmed that KCB charge ksh 5/- for their USSD (*522#) while I&M charge ksh 2/- for theirs (*458#). These are the hidden costs that mama mboga never realizes, only wondering as she limas her shamba that 'hawa watu wa safaricom wanakula pesa yangu na hata sija hora thimu' If you assume only a quarter of their customer base use USSD twice a month, that's serious non-interest income, uncouth if you asked me.
washiku
#32 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2015 1:28:21 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Wakora muno muno muno.... Interest is charged upfront and loan amount sits with KCB until you transfer to mpesa. Very clever!!!

I've confirmed that KCB charge ksh 5/- for their USSD (*522#) while I&M charge ksh 2/- for theirs (*458#). These are the hidden costs that mama mboga never realizes, only wondering as she limas her shamba that 'hawa watu wa safaricom wanakula pesa yangu na hata sija hora thimu' If you assume only a quarter of their customer base use USSD twice a month, that's serious non-interest income, uncouth if you asked me.



@Gordon, USSD charges are not imposed by the bank but by network provider. The last time I checked, Safcom had fixed bank codes at 5bob and other services' codes eg Music, at 10bob. By the way, for USSD, Safcom keeps all the loot, unlike Premium SMSes where they do a revenue share. I doubt your 2bob for *458#, unless you used Airtel line which in some circumstances you can negotiate for lower rates.
bird_man
#33 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:56:32 AM
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Took a test loan from KCB Mpesa,got the money in 5mins or so....but when I paid it took 2days for the loan balance to be cleared!Very poorly implemented and confusing.
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wazuaguest
#34 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:32:45 PM
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Othelo wrote:
[quote=mugandaHappy family thus far...


Aish Makoma has aged like that over the years d'oh! .... anyway been about 20 years since we worked together [/quote]
just seen a tweet from KCB and they are referring Makome as the MD Kenya.So that means after the restructuring Joshua became the group CEO with several MDs reporting to him.Meanwhile Daktari has refused to do the same
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maka
#35 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2015 6:31:35 PM
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bird_man wrote:
Took a test loan from KCB Mpesa,got the money in 5mins or so....but when I paid it took 2days for the loan balance to be cleared!Very poorly implemented and confusing.


It's bogus they brought something that wasn't ready to the market...scom staff are complaining big time...
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maka
#36 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2015 6:35:25 PM
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hindi ni riu wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
growing wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Waaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

You can borrow from Kes. 50 up to Kes. 1,000,000 and pay within a month to 6 months.
Interest rate starts from as low as 2% (contrast to Msuruari 7.5% one off?)

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

Rink

2% per month, that's equivalent to 24% per annum

safcom is leading banks to be real shylocks,2% is 24% p.a very expensive to the educated but very cheap to the lay man


Consider the hussles you undergo in a normal process to prochiwa say a mere loan of Kes. 500,000?
With this arrangement however you get this done on the comfort of your sofa set while watching cartoons and sipping bone soup.

TIME VALUE OF MONEY!


Do you even know the meaning of time value of money?


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jerry
#37 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:15:07 PM
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bird_man wrote:
Took a test loan from KCB Mpesa,got the money in 5mins or so....but when I paid it took 2days for the loan balance to be cleared!Very poorly implemented and confusing.

What was the interest rate like?
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watesh
#38 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:12:04 AM
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I still prefer mshwari coz its faster to store excess mpesa cash and to remove. KCB Mpesa needs to get space on the menu
bird_man
#39 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:42:19 AM
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jerry wrote:
bird_man wrote:
Took a test loan from KCB Mpesa,got the money in 5mins or so....but when I paid it took 2days for the loan balance to be cleared!Very poorly implemented and confusing.

What was the interest rate like?

It was just 100sh for test purposes.Interest was 4% for 1month.
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
jerry
#40 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 11:14:22 AM
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bird_man wrote:
jerry wrote:
bird_man wrote:
Took a test loan from KCB Mpesa,got the money in 5mins or so....but when I paid it took 2days for the loan balance to be cleared!Very poorly implemented and confusing.

What was the interest rate like?

It was just 100sh for test purposes.Interest was 4% for 1month.

Sounds good if teething problems are addressed.
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