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tycho
#21 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 11:24:03 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it possible for @tycho to change his thoughts, ideas and attitudes without changing his name?


Why don't you ask him?


It's not clear where tycho begins or ends, or even whether he's capable of knowing or handling the question.


You could always start by having a conversation with your navel. It is tested philosophical device that never fails. smile smile smile


Is 'my' navel also tycho's navel? Does tycho have a navel?
tycho
#22 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 11:28:27 AM
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quicksand wrote:
tycho wrote:

Firstly, I wish to surrender all ideas that need to be defended. Even the idea of free speech.

http://www.theguardian.c...f-copenhagen-gun-attack


--Light is a wave.
--Light is a particle.
2 diametrical ideas, yet both are true, depending on one's level of enlightenment.
Truth is relative, having more information or knowledge, is better.


Knowledge is full of illusions and delusion how can it be better than 'relativity'?
tycho
#23 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 11:30:30 AM
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@symbols, am not trying to grasp the formless. I am.
Muriel
#24 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 12:23:46 PM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it possible for @tycho to change his thoughts, ideas and attitudes without changing his name?


Why don't you ask him?


It's not clear where tycho begins or ends, or even whether he's capable of knowing or handling the question.


So why is he asking questions?


Because he wants to know.


To know what yet you are?
symbols
#25 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 4:24:52 PM
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Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Grasping the form of being formless?


Unlearning the education.


Means to what end?


The chase of thrill and the thrill of chase.


Laughing out loudly Applause
tycho
#26 Posted : Saturday, February 21, 2015 6:39:12 PM
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My body is tense. My heart is beating a trifle fast, and there's this tension around my head.

A flood of libido is coming. I don't know what will happen after am swept, but I don't care.

Oh! The butterflies in my stomach! My navel!

Wakanyugi! Hahaha!
AlphDoti
#27 Posted : Sunday, February 22, 2015 10:18:06 AM
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tycho wrote:
My body is tense. My heart is beating a trifle fast, and there's this tension around my head.

A flood of libido is coming. I don't know what will happen after am swept, but I don't care.

Oh! The butterflies in my stomach! My navel!

Wakanyugi! Hahaha!

Get married @tycho, and drain out all that libido of yours. It might even make you settle and occupied when @tycholettes arrive. This is my simple advice. Otherwise, one of these fine days you might land yourself in trouble.
tycho
#28 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 6:48:54 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
My body is tense. My heart is beating a trifle fast, and there's this tension around my head.

A flood of libido is coming. I don't know what will happen after am swept, but I don't care.

Oh! The butterflies in my stomach! My navel!

Wakanyugi! Hahaha!

Get married @tycho, and drain out all that libido of yours. It might even make you settle and occupied when @tycholettes arrive. This is my simple advice. Otherwise, one of these fine days you might land yourself in trouble.


I see that you also fear the libido, and that there are experiences you haven't explored.
Wakanyugi
#29 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 9:32:36 AM
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tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it possible for @tycho to change his thoughts, ideas and attitudes without changing his name?


Why don't you ask him?


It's not clear where tycho begins or ends, or even whether he's capable of knowing or handling the question.


You could always start by having a conversation with your navel. It is tested philosophical device that never fails. smile smile smile


Is 'my' navel also tycho's navel? Does tycho have a navel?



If Tycho was born he should have a navel.

If he wasn't there is always an alternative. For instance, you could lock yourself in the fridge and do a reverse Descartes.

"I freeze therefore I am" Laughing out loudly
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#30 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 10:08:13 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Is it possible for @tycho to change his thoughts, ideas and attitudes without changing his name?


Why don't you ask him?


It's not clear where tycho begins or ends, or even whether he's capable of knowing or handling the question.


You could always start by having a conversation with your navel. It is tested philosophical device that never fails. smile smile smile


Is 'my' navel also tycho's navel? Does tycho have a navel?



If Tycho was born he should have a navel.

If he wasn't there is always an alternative. For instance, you could lock yourself in the fridge and do a reverse Descartes.

"I freeze therefore I am" Laughing out loudly


Hahaha! Of course tycho wasn't born. Can tycho be frozen? I doubt it.
tycho
#31 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 10:51:09 AM
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There's this story about Onan getting punished for spilling libidinous seed to waste. There's this all important question about masturbation; is it healthy? Is it sinful?

The urge to get rid of libidinous pressure turns out to be the source of death and depression. No wonder the sex lives of many are so gory. I am surprised at how much madness has subjugated me.
Wakanyugi
#32 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 1:25:25 PM
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tycho wrote:
There's this story about Onan getting punished for spilling libidinous seed to waste. There's this all important question about masturbation; is it healthy? Is it sinful?

The urge to get rid of libidinous pressure turns out to be the source of death and depression. No wonder the sex lives of many are so gory. I am surprised at how much madness has subjugated me.



The wasting of 'seed' is taboo among many cultures, not just the bible. I think it comes from a past where propagation of the race was a major challenge and,...ahem, all hands were required on board.

But things have changed now and in fact we have the opposite problem, too many of us. So in that regard masturbation is, evolutionary speaking, not only right but mandatory. Of course our religious/morality mores are late to catch up, as usual.

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Aside (sotto voice): I read somewhere that the reasons girls experience a growth spurt around adolescence (faster than boys) is an evolutionary adaptation where, in the past, a girl was expected to start bearing children on hitting puberty. If that is true we should be seeing a gradual change where children of both sexes grow on average at the same rate.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Mainat
#33 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 1:59:32 PM
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vangi corner
Sehemu ndio nyumba
Othelo
#34 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 2:06:58 PM
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Mainat wrote:
vangi corner

Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Muriel
#35 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2015 2:25:16 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
There's this story about Onan getting punished for spilling libidinous seed to waste. There's this all important question about masturbation; is it healthy? Is it sinful?

The urge to get rid of libidinous pressure turns out to be the source of death and depression. No wonder the sex lives of many are so gory. I am surprised at how much madness has subjugated me.



The wasting of 'seed' is taboo among many cultures, not just the bible. I think it comes from a past where propagation of the race was a major challenge and,...ahem, all hands were required on board.

But things have changed now and in fact we have the opposite problem, too many of us. So in that regard masturbation is, evolutionary speaking, not only right but mandatory. Of course our religious/morality mores are late to catch up, as usual.

---------------------------

Aside (sotto voice): I read somewhere that the reasons girls experience a growth spurt around adolescence (faster than boys) is an evolutionary adaptation where, in the past, a girl was expected to start bearing children on hitting puberty. If that is true we should be seeing a gradual change where children of both sexes grow on average at the same rate.


By who or what and why did they expect a girl to start bearing children on hitting puberty?
tycho
#36 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:48:30 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
There's this story about Onan getting punished for spilling libidinous seed to waste. There's this all important question about masturbation; is it healthy? Is it sinful?

The urge to get rid of libidinous pressure turns out to be the source of death and depression. No wonder the sex lives of many are so gory. I am surprised at how much madness has subjugated me.



The wasting of 'seed' is taboo among many cultures, not just the bible. I think it comes from a past where propagation of the race was a major challenge and,...ahem, all hands were required on board.

But things have changed now and in fact we have the opposite problem, too many of us. So in that regard masturbation is, evolutionary speaking, not only right but mandatory. Of course our religious/morality mores are late to catch up, as usual.

---------------------------

Aside (sotto voice): I read somewhere that the reasons girls experience a growth spurt around adolescence (faster than boys) is an evolutionary adaptation where, in the past, a girl was expected to start bearing children on hitting puberty. If that is true we should be seeing a gradual change where children of both sexes grow on average at the same rate.


Are we too many? And supposing we're too many, is the adaptive challenge the maintenance of a stable population through population control?

In my opinion sex plays a relatively small role in propagation of numbers, and a bigger role in propagation of humanity in qualitative terms. For example, delayed gratification can be used for economic development.

Neither is masturbation mandatory if there are other practices that can be used in its stead-and there are alternatives to it.

From experience, many of us seem to be under a pernicious psychology that has alienated us from ourselves. Think of how masturbation goes with pornography as an example.

We live in times when intelligence is despised and nihilism and madness are extolled.

Wakanyugi
#37 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:04:20 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
There's this story about Onan getting punished for spilling libidinous seed to waste. There's this all important question about masturbation; is it healthy? Is it sinful?

The urge to get rid of libidinous pressure turns out to be the source of death and depression. No wonder the sex lives of many are so gory. I am surprised at how much madness has subjugated me.



The wasting of 'seed' is taboo among many cultures, not just the bible. I think it comes from a past where propagation of the race was a major challenge and,...ahem, all hands were required on board.

But things have changed now and in fact we have the opposite problem, too many of us. So in that regard masturbation is, evolutionary speaking, not only right but mandatory. Of course our religious/morality mores are late to catch up, as usual.

---------------------------

Aside (sotto voice): I read somewhere that the reasons girls experience a growth spurt around adolescence (faster than boys) is an evolutionary adaptation where, in the past, a girl was expected to start bearing children on hitting puberty. If that is true we should be seeing a gradual change where children of both sexes grow on average at the same rate.


By who or what and why did they expect a girl to start bearing children on hitting puberty?


There are many societies that practice early marriage even today. What people forget is that this was the norm everywhere until about 100 years ago. Most history books you read say as much.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Muriel
#38 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:24:32 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
There's this story about Onan getting punished for spilling libidinous seed to waste. There's this all important question about masturbation; is it healthy? Is it sinful?

The urge to get rid of libidinous pressure turns out to be the source of death and depression. No wonder the sex lives of many are so gory. I am surprised at how much madness has subjugated me.



The wasting of 'seed' is taboo among many cultures, not just the bible. I think it comes from a past where propagation of the race was a major challenge and,...ahem, all hands were required on board.

But things have changed now and in fact we have the opposite problem, too many of us. So in that regard masturbation is, evolutionary speaking, not only right but mandatory. Of course our religious/morality mores are late to catch up, as usual.

---------------------------

Aside (sotto voice): I read somewhere that the reasons girls experience a growth spurt around adolescence (faster than boys) is an evolutionary adaptation where, in the past, a girl was expected to start bearing children on hitting puberty. If that is true we should be seeing a gradual change where children of both sexes grow on average at the same rate.


By who or what and why did they expect a girl to start bearing children on hitting puberty?


There are many societies that practice early marriage even today. What people forget is that this was the norm everywhere until about 100 years ago. Most history books you read say as much.


You are evading my question.

Let me rephrase, who or what made it the norm everywhere (until about 100 years ago)? And why did it / they make it the norm?
Wakanyugi
#39 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:28:09 PM
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tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
There's this story about Onan getting punished for spilling libidinous seed to waste. There's this all important question about masturbation; is it healthy? Is it sinful?

The urge to get rid of libidinous pressure turns out to be the source of death and depression. No wonder the sex lives of many are so gory. I am surprised at how much madness has subjugated me.



The wasting of 'seed' is taboo among many cultures, not just the bible. I think it comes from a past where propagation of the race was a major challenge and,...ahem, all hands were required on board.

But things have changed now and in fact we have the opposite problem, too many of us. So in that regard masturbation is, evolutionary speaking, not only right but mandatory. Of course our religious/morality mores are late to catch up, as usual.

---------------------------

Aside (sotto voice): I read somewhere that the reasons girls experience a growth spurt around adolescence (faster than boys) is an evolutionary adaptation where, in the past, a girl was expected to start bearing children on hitting puberty. If that is true we should be seeing a gradual change where children of both sexes grow on average at the same rate.


Are we too many? And supposing we're too many, is the adaptive challenge the maintenance of a stable population through population control?



In a past life, I studied demography and I can confirm that indeed we are too many. But numbers is only part of the story. The real challenge is the behavior that humanity has adopted - especially uncontrolled consumption - which puts the entire ecosystem at risk. If every person on Earth attained the same ecological footprint as, say, America (which lifestyle we all seem to aspire to) the Earth would not survive as we know it.

About sex and procreation these are the key instruments through which we propagate. My expectation is that evolution is right now working to adapt us to the challenge of strained Earth carrying capacity. One such adaptation is sex without leading to propagation. In other words masturbation, porn, homosexuality etc.

I suspect the rise of disease epidemics is an other evolutionary adaptation that we shall see a lot more off in coming years, especially as social and political progress have almost eliminated one of the most efficient tools of number control, war.


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Wakanyugi
#40 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:42:07 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
There's this story about Onan getting punished for spilling libidinous seed to waste. There's this all important question about masturbation; is it healthy? Is it sinful?

The urge to get rid of libidinous pressure turns out to be the source of death and depression. No wonder the sex lives of many are so gory. I am surprised at how much madness has subjugated me.



The wasting of 'seed' is taboo among many cultures, not just the bible. I think it comes from a past where propagation of the race was a major challenge and,...ahem, all hands were required on board.

But things have changed now and in fact we have the opposite problem, too many of us. So in that regard masturbation is, evolutionary speaking, not only right but mandatory. Of course our religious/morality mores are late to catch up, as usual.

---------------------------

Aside (sotto voice): I read somewhere that the reasons girls experience a growth spurt around adolescence (faster than boys) is an evolutionary adaptation where, in the past, a girl was expected to start bearing children on hitting puberty. If that is true we should be seeing a gradual change where children of both sexes grow on average at the same rate.


By who or what and why did they expect a girl to start bearing children on hitting puberty?


There are many societies that practice early marriage even today. What people forget is that this was the norm everywhere until about 100 years ago. Most history books you read say as much.


You are evading my question.

Let me rephrase, who or what made it the norm everywhere (until about 100 years ago)? And why did it / they make it the norm?


It is not who, it is what. This is my theory.

In a time when mortality rates were very high and the survival of a social group was not guaranteed, society needed to make maximum use of its reproductive potential. For girls it meant early marriage and bearing many children.

Anything that deviated from this was sanctioned in one way or other. The taboo against 'spilling of seed' can be seen in this light. So is the common desire of almost all humans to procreate - even today when the survival of the race is no longer threatened.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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