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Teacher Wanjiku finally weds
chepkel
#21 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:58:09 PM
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quicksand wrote:

Snatchers are usually opportunists who wait until another woman has put in work, endured and suffered, until she has polished her man into a refined specimen, then they pounce. They do not want guys who are down in the dumps, hustling. That is why it must hurt so.
And we men are rather heartless, so we'll move on without missing a beat the moment another hot mama presents herself. Most men I know have a bro code, and they will not nyemelea other men's wives (though the watchie has no qualms),...women should follow suit. Dont take attached men, dont tempt men so much and may be they must just stick around through the slog to the very end.


I am not talking about opportunists here. I am talking about a genuine person who falls in love with another when either of them is in a horrible and unhappy relationship

P.S. I meant to write "Snatch than share" in my earlier post...I've made the correction
quicksand
#22 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:36:39 PM
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chepkel wrote:
quicksand wrote:

Snatchers are usually opportunists who wait until another woman has put in work, endured and suffered, until she has polished her man into a refined specimen, then they pounce. They do not want guys who are down in the dumps, hustling. That is why it must hurt so.
And we men are rather heartless, so we'll move on without missing a beat the moment another hot mama presents herself. Most men I know have a bro code, and they will not nyemelea other men's wives (though the watchie has no qualms),...women should follow suit. Dont take attached men, dont tempt men so much and may be they must just stick around through the slog to the very end.


I am not talking about opportunists here. I am talking about a genuine person who falls in love with another when either of them is in a horrible and unhappy relationship

P.S. I meant to write "Snatch than share" in my earlier post...I've made the correction

Semantics dear. You wait until the other person has made a clean break from their current partner before you put your feelings out in the open. This is very difficult, I know, but not impossible. If you fall in love and tell a dude who is still with his wife, that is temptation, you have helped him across the Rubicon -in other words snatching;
Otherwise he might have decided to stay and endure his wife and the unhappiness had you not provided an alternative.
Swenani
#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:07:01 PM
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quicksand wrote:
chepkel wrote:
quicksand wrote:

Snatchers are usually opportunists who wait until another woman has put in work, endured and suffered, until she has polished her man into a refined specimen, then they pounce. They do not want guys who are down in the dumps, hustling. That is why it must hurt so.
And we men are rather heartless, so we'll move on without missing a beat the moment another hot mama presents herself. Most men I know have a bro code, and they will not nyemelea other men's wives (though the watchie has no qualms),...women should follow suit. Dont take attached men, dont tempt men so much and may be they must just stick around through the slog to the very end.


I am not talking about opportunists here. I am talking about a genuine person who falls in love with another when either of them is in a horrible and unhappy relationship

P.S. I meant to write "Snatch than share" in my earlier post...I've made the correction

Semantics dear. You wait until the other person has made a clean break from their current partner before you put your feelings out in the open. This is very difficult, I know, but not impossible. If you fall in love and tell a dude who is still with his wife, that is temptation, you have helped him across the Rubicon -in other words snatching;
Otherwise he might have decided to stay and endure his wife and the unhappiness had you not provided an alternative.


@Quicksand,I find you posts to be insulting since you are making an assumption that a man is not a rational person who can make prudent decisions and its only a lady who makes the decision to snatch or love a married man!!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
quicksand
#24 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:16:42 PM
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Swenani wrote:
quicksand wrote:
chepkel wrote:
quicksand wrote:

Snatchers are usually opportunists who wait until another woman has put in work, endured and suffered, until she has polished her man into a refined specimen, then they pounce. They do not want guys who are down in the dumps, hustling. That is why it must hurt so.
And we men are rather heartless, so we'll move on without missing a beat the moment another hot mama presents herself. Most men I know have a bro code, and they will not nyemelea other men's wives (though the watchie has no qualms),...women should follow suit. Dont take attached men, dont tempt men so much and may be they must just stick around through the slog to the very end.


I am not talking about opportunists here. I am talking about a genuine person who falls in love with another when either of them is in a horrible and unhappy relationship

P.S. I meant to write "Snatch than share" in my earlier post...I've made the correction

Semantics dear. You wait until the other person has made a clean break from their current partner before you put your feelings out in the open. This is very difficult, I know, but not impossible. If you fall in love and tell a dude who is still with his wife, that is temptation, you have helped him across the Rubicon -in other words snatching;
Otherwise he might have decided to stay and endure his wife and the unhappiness had you not provided an alternative.


@Quicksand,I find you posts to be insulting since you are making an assumption that man is not a rational person who can make prudent decisions and its only a lady who makes the decision to snatch or love a married man!!

Sorry to offend you, your highness, it was a simple ommission on my part. Of course men too are capable of the same follies, but I was addressing @chepkel, a woman and assumed, wrongly, that the flipside would be inferred (hence the use of the words person and partner, above). Can I be accepted back to your good graces now?
CLK
#25 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:05:30 PM
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chepkel wrote:
I would rather snatch than share.

Speaking of snatching....Is it really such a bad thing?? If a man/woman is in a terribly unhappy relationship and a someone else comes along to offer something good, Is is really wrong to move on in the quest for happiness??

I mean, we only live once...why suffer in a doomed relationship for years when you can move forth and be happy???


Problem is you will not know you are sharing, by the time you do her kids are the same age as yours and probably the guy has pulled a Kajwang on you. so you have been sharing for 19 years, what happens?

As for the kind of snatching you are talking about, you are better of with a jungu, he will say 'Honey, I fell in love with someone else', straight face. Alafu unajipanga.

CLK
#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12:58 PM
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quicksand wrote:
chepkel wrote:
I would rather snatch or share.

Speaking of snatching....Is it really such a bad thing?? If a man/woman is in a terribly unhappy relationship and a someone else comes along to offer something good, Is is really wrong to move on in the quest for happiness??

I mean, we only live once...why suffer in a doomed relationship for years when you can move forth and be happy???

Snatchers are usually opportunists who wait until another woman has put in work, endured and suffered, until she has polished her man into a refined specimen, then they pounce. They do not want guys who are down in the dumps, hustling. That is why it must hurt so.
And we men are rather heartless, so we'll move on without missing a beat the moment another hot mama presents herself. Most men I know have a bro code, and they will not nyemelea other men's wives (though the watchie has no qualms),...women should follow suit. Dont take attached men, dont tempt men so much and may be they must just stick around through the slog to the very end.


You make it sound like the men are hanging somewhere like ripe apples/mangoes, someone just picks and runs, they have no head of their own, that has some brain matter??
And by the way, since we have become a very selfish society, your marriage is non of my business, your spouse is the one who walked you down the aisle or paid your dowry,sasa mimi inanihusu vipi, I am not supposed to look at his past, I just fall in love with him or his wallet and voila.
radio
#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 6:17:16 PM
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CLK wrote:
quicksand wrote:
chepkel wrote:
I would rather snatch or share.

Speaking of snatching....Is it really such a bad thing?? If a man/woman is in a terribly unhappy relationship and a someone else comes along to offer something good, Is is really wrong to move on in the quest for happiness??

I mean, we only live once...why suffer in a doomed relationship for years when you can move forth and be happy???

Snatchers are usually opportunists who wait until another woman has put in work, endured and suffered, until she has polished her man into a refined specimen, then they pounce. They do not want guys who are down in the dumps, hustling. That is why it must hurt so.
And we men are rather heartless, so we'll move on without missing a beat the moment another hot mama presents herself. Most men I know have a bro code, and they will not nyemelea other men's wives (though the watchie has no qualms),...women should follow suit. Dont take attached men, dont tempt men so much and may be they must just stick around through the slog to the very end.


You make it sound like the men are hanging somewhere like ripe apples/mangoes, someone just picks and runs, they have no head of their own, that has some brain matter??
And by the way, since we have become a very selfish society, your marriage is non of my business, your spouse is the one who walked you down the aisle or paid your dowry,sasa mimi inanihusu vipi, I am not supposed to look at his past, I just fall in love with him or his wallet and voila.


Kwisha maneno!
quicksand
#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 6:41:53 PM
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CLK wrote:
quicksand wrote:
chepkel wrote:
I would rather snatch or share.

Speaking of snatching....Is it really such a bad thing?? If a man/woman is in a terribly unhappy relationship and a someone else comes along to offer something good, Is is really wrong to move on in the quest for happiness??

I mean, we only live once...why suffer in a doomed relationship for years when you can move forth and be happy???

Snatchers are usually opportunists who wait until another woman has put in work, endured and suffered, until she has polished her man into a refined specimen, then they pounce. They do not want guys who are down in the dumps, hustling. That is why it must hurt so.
And we men are rather heartless, so we'll move on without missing a beat the moment another hot mama presents herself. Most men I know have a bro code, and they will not nyemelea other men's wives (though the watchie has no qualms),...women should follow suit. Dont take attached men, dont tempt men so much and may be they must just stick around through the slog to the very end.


You make it sound like the men are hanging somewhere like ripe apples/mangoes, someone just picks and runs, they have no head of their own, that has some brain matter??
And by the way, since we have become a very selfish society, your marriage is non of my business, your spouse is the one who walked you down the aisle or paid your dowry,sasa mimi inanihusu vipi, I am not supposed to look at his past, I just fall in love with him or his wallet and voila.

Applause Applause You are making my point for me here, though I get the idea your intention was to berate me smile
At no point did I say that men are brainless, with no choice or should be absolved from responsibility. Quite the contrary. There is a reason women make men 'chase' them for a while, to test that commitment and resilience. It is a societal habit that is dying as less and less resistance is offered or sometimes a plain old brazen grab is made.
You go after someone else' is wife or husband if thats what you want. It is a free country and I am not the world moral police (neither do I know anyone in Kenya who is), but if you do, you are a snatcher, you might escape paying the price but most likely karma will catch up with you like somebody earlier said.
You snatch today, yours is snatched tomorrow. Maybe.
Peace out.
chepkel
#29 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:12:22 AM
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I like what @Quicksand has said. Makes a lot of sense. This is how to gauge whether he or she is really in-love with you.

So, If you leave him/her alone and, later on, they still choose to leave their partner, then that is Karma averted, right?? Ama??

All in all, I wish people (especially Men) could stop geting married for all the wrong reasons only to suffer baadaye

Sad Sad Sad Sad
jaggernaut
#30 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:26:47 AM
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quicksand wrote:
CLK wrote:
quicksand wrote:
chepkel wrote:
I would rather snatch or share.

Speaking of snatching....Is it really such a bad thing?? If a man/woman is in a terribly unhappy relationship and a someone else comes along to offer something good, Is is really wrong to move on in the quest for happiness??

I mean, we only live once...why suffer in a doomed relationship for years when you can move forth and be happy???

Snatchers are usually opportunists who wait until another woman has put in work, endured and suffered, until she has polished her man into a refined specimen, then they pounce. They do not want guys who are down in the dumps, hustling. That is why it must hurt so.
And we men are rather heartless, so we'll move on without missing a beat the moment another hot mama presents herself. Most men I know have a bro code, and they will not nyemelea other men's wives (though the watchie has no qualms),...women should follow suit. Dont take attached men, dont tempt men so much and may be they must just stick around through the slog to the very end.


You make it sound like the men are hanging somewhere like ripe apples/mangoes, someone just picks and runs, they have no head of their own, that has some brain matter??
And by the way, since we have become a very selfish society, your marriage is non of my business, your spouse is the one who walked you down the aisle or paid your dowry,sasa mimi inanihusu vipi, I am not supposed to look at his past, I just fall in love with him or his wallet and voila.

Applause Applause You are making my point for me here, though I get the idea your intention was to berate me smile
At no point did I say that men are brainless, with no choice or should be absolved from responsibility. Quite the contrary. There is a reason women make men 'chase' them for a while, to test that commitment and resilience. It is a societal habit that is dying as less and less resistance is offered or sometimes a plain old brazen grab is made.
You go after someone else' is wife or husband if thats what you want. It is a free country and I am not the world moral police (neither do I know anyone in Kenya who is), but if you do, you are a snatcher, you might escape paying the price but most likely karma will catch up with you like somebody earlier said.
You snatch today, yours is snatched tomorrow. Maybe.
Peace out.

This reminds me of the tribulations of ndugu "Louis the pest"
kysse
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:05:44 AM
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For every wedding taking place there is a person being made widow/er,divorcing etc life is unpredictable.

It's a never ending cycle which makes me believe that ours is a recycling society full of people with life's past experiences.

Anyway,a man who's seen it all,been through it all in every aspect of life is 100 times better being in a relationship with than the fresher who's months or years from life's experiences.
The maturity to handle complex matters has not been cultivated by experiences because he's still learning how to walk and hold bottle.

However the 2 entering a union with past issues should be compatible physically,emotionally,financially,spiritually,to sustain such a relationship because if not handled with wisdom,they can ruin an otherwise beautiful union.

So when you have a 20 yr old marrying a 45 yr man,It leaves me wondering if she's stable enough to handle his past issues ( only immature folks refer to them as garbage because that which they call garbage builds up character and wisdom and instills responsibility in a person) Now those characters are what girls like the subject admire in a man.

Swenani
#32 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:10:15 AM
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kysse wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
maka wrote:
CLK wrote:
No man is single, you either snatch him from someone or share him with someone.

Very true


Can the two of you share me with Kysse?

You want to share @maka Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



@ Swenani cut it off now.The 'eating' jokes are getting tired or just cease from dragging me along the gutter.

You are too decent unlike some shemen


Your royal thighness,this has been noted
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#33 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:49:13 AM
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Muriel
#34 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:13:50 AM
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How I wish Alphdoti were here.

I yearn for him. For his perspectives.
Kaka Sunguch
#35 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05:30 AM
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All men are dogs.....albeit different breeds.ION,funny how a thread degenerates in this great Republic.
Angelica _ann
#36 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:09:11 AM
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Kaka Sunguch wrote:
All men are dogs.....albeit different breeds.ION,funny how a thread degenerates in this great Republic.

Men dont dog alone.So women are bitching with other people's husbands!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
AlphDoti
#37 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:12:12 PM
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Muriel wrote:
How I wish Alphdoti were here.

I yearn for him. For his perspectives.

@muriel, it has been a very interesting year, this old machine handling all these Wazuans, it has not been easy. But I'm glad and happy for all the questions and challenges from all of you.
AlphDoti
#38 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:16:30 PM
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I don't know the story behind 'the teacher', did she snatch somebody's husband or she agreed to be married as second wife, and do you call that snatching or polygamy, what is wrong with that? Or did she get married to a divorced man, or widower, and what is wrong with that? Or is it the age difference?

If it is the later, then see my opinion below (trying to make my posts short for engineer @impunity Laughing out loudly)
AlphDoti
#39 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:33:01 PM
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Let me tell you a story about a young man who reaches the age of 25. In that village, there was a woman, a successful businesswoman, boss-lady, who was 40 years old and had been widowed twice. Then at that age of 25, the man chooses to marry the woman, who was 15 years older than himself and a widow.

The man remained with his wife until he reaches the age of 50. And we know that the age in which men would have strong desires towards women would be from young age. So for him to remain married to her in a very happy marriage from the age of 25 to the age of 50 is so amazing.

Then unfortunately the woman, his wife, passes away! The man remained as a bachelor for about 2 to 3 years. Later on he married another widow, who was also quite old at age...

To cut the long story short, this man is none other than Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). And the woman was Khadijah bint Khuwaylid.

So to me, I think with the right intention, clear expectations, communication, respect and commitment, a relationship will work regardless of age. But the age must not be too wide, for example a man of 70 years marrying a girl of 22 years is a bit too out of place.

IMPORTANT: Please people, don't turn this into religious argument. I'm just giving you an example, an amazing love story of a man and woman who lived years ago, with an amazing.
washiku
#40 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:33:06 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Let me tell you a story about a young man who reaches the age of 25. In that village, there was a woman, a successful businesswoman, boss-lady, who was 40 years old and had been widowed twice. Then at that age of 25, the man chooses to marry the woman, who was 15 years older than himself and a widow.

The man remained with his wife until he reaches the age of 50. And we know that the age in which men would have strong desires towards women would be from young age. So for him to remain married to her in a very happy marriage from the age of 25 to the age of 50 is so amazing.

Then unfortunately the woman, his wife, passes away! The man remained as a bachelor for about 2 to 3 years. Later on he married another widow, who was also quite old at age...

To cut the long story short, this man is none other than Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). And the woman was Khadijah bint Khuwaylid.

So to me, I think with the right intention, clear expectations, communication, respect and commitment, a relationship will work regardless of age. But the age must not be too wide, for example a man of 70 years marrying a girl of 22 years is a bit too out of place.

IMPORTANT: Please people, don't turn this into religious argument. I'm just giving you an example, an amazing love story of a man and woman who lived years ago, with an amazing.


What age difference is too much? 15 yrs? 20yrs 40yrs?
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