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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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jaggernaut wrote:One thing that all kenyans can learn from JJ is loyalty. Loyalty to a party, loyalty to a cause. If only we can replicate such loyalty and commitment in our work places, marriages/relationships, siasa etc then kenya can go very far.
And it was sad to see jj abandon kanu after baba joined kanu and took over his SG seat. It is just sickening to think that someone would scheme and shamelessly take over the seat of kanu's most loyal supporter. Lakini baba did it, kweli baba has no manners or even an iota of decency. Sad. I hope baba today apologized to jj's family for the dispicable thing he did against jj. It's hard to imagine that a man "can live with himself" after doing such a thing. It's no wonder that all baba's political adventures have failed, and this I can attribute to the curse that befell baba after he snatched that seat from jj. Choices have consequences. Politicians! Just business/politics!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Is Moi unwell? Its unlike him to miss JJ's burial. JJ spent the better part of his life defending Moi. Asking Gideon to take his "bicycle" to represent him isn't good enough.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:Is Moi unwell? Its unlike him to miss JJ's burial. JJ spent the better part of his life defending Moi. Asking Gideon to take his "bicycle" to represent him isn't good enough. I think Moi is cold blooded....... In related news, I am very suspicious of teetotallers. Their vices are more deadly....cannot afford to surrender control even for a single moment, cause in the conscience lurks something dark..., but thats just me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:Is Moi unwell? Its unlike him to miss JJ's burial. JJ spent the better part of his life defending Moi. Asking Gideon to take his "bicycle" to represent him isn't good enough. I think Moi is cold blooded....... In related news, I am very suspicious of teetotallers. Their vices are more deadly....cannot afford to surrender control even for a single moment, cause in the conscience lurks something dark..., but thats just me. This line is often used by beer drinkers to justify their actions. Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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I still wonder if his was true loyalty or loyalty at a price.... I'll wait for the book.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Euge wrote:quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:Is Moi unwell? Its unlike him to miss JJ's burial. JJ spent the better part of his life defending Moi. Asking Gideon to take his "bicycle" to represent him isn't good enough. I think Moi is cold blooded....... In related news, I am very suspicious of teetotallers. Their vices are more deadly....cannot afford to surrender control even for a single moment, cause in the conscience lurks something dark..., but thats just me. This line is often used by beer drinkers to justify their actions. You are right...Then they convince themselves that people who do not drink do other evils instead. Then you ask them to list those 'other' evils. They start bra bra bra-ing things you never even dreamt of ever doing. Further, As they narrate them, they realize infact they are in those evils too. So the beer has not really stopped them from doing those evils, apparently. Evils that mostly come up are #Womanizer#Wife-batterer#Pornography# etc only to realise most of those are associated with those who don't have control over their drink 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2014 Posts: 1,652
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washiku wrote:Euge wrote:quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:Is Moi unwell? Its unlike him to miss JJ's burial. JJ spent the better part of his life defending Moi. Asking Gideon to take his "bicycle" to represent him isn't good enough. I think Moi is cold blooded....... In related news, I am very suspicious of teetotallers. Their vices are more deadly....cannot afford to surrender control even for a single moment, cause in the conscience lurks something dark..., but thats just me. This line is often used by beer drinkers to justify their actions. You are right...Then they convince themselves that people who do not drink do other evils instead. Then you ask them to list those 'other' evils. They start bra bra bra-ing things you never even dreamt of ever doing. Further, As they narrate them, they realize infact they are in those evils too. So the beer has not really stopped them from doing those evils, apparently. Evils that mostly come up are #Womanizer#Wife-batterer#Pornography# etc only to realise most of those are associated with those who don't have control over their drink  Kila nyani na starehe zake! Hutia Mundu!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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washiku wrote:Is Moi unwell? Its unlike him to miss JJ's burial. JJ spent the better part of his life defending Moi. Asking Gideon to take his "bicycle" to represent him isn't good enough. During Kabarak graduation he did not look OK….. but I believe it will be a long time before he visit Makueni!! The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:Euge wrote:quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:Is Moi unwell? Its unlike him to miss JJ's burial. JJ spent the better part of his life defending Moi. Asking Gideon to take his "bicycle" to represent him isn't good enough. I think Moi is cold blooded....... In related news, I am very suspicious of teetotallers. Their vices are more deadly....cannot afford to surrender control even for a single moment, cause in the conscience lurks something dark..., but thats just me. This line is often used by beer drinkers to justify their actions. You are right...Then they convince themselves that people who do not drink do other evils instead. Then you ask them to list those 'other' evils. They start bra bra bra-ing things you never even dreamt of ever doing. Further, As they narrate them, they realize infact they are in those evils too. So the beer has not really stopped them from doing those evils, apparently. Evils that mostly come up are #Womanizer#Wife-batterer#Pornography# etc only to realise most of those are associated with those who don't have control over their drink Raw nerve?? Settle down fellows Speaking for myself, I like alchohol, it makes me stupid and it makes me happy. That is my excuse and it is sufficient.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Kamotho was not one of them. He was an outsider to elite class which includes the Mois,Kenyattas,Njonjos,Ndegwas,Odingas.... Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Rest in peace JJ. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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kaka2za wrote:Kamotho vs Michuki and Kiano vs Matiba made Muranga politics interesting in those days. Will never forget how Gatunguru residents wailed in horror after JJ lost to Michuki in 1983.
Ken is the last one standing. Got my first Kshs 500 from the man. He was campaigning in Central for an MP who had just defected from FORD, used to drive in a sleek new shape (then) Pajero, which was the swankiest SUV of the day. So I am buying bananas at this small roadside market when Kamotho and entourage suddenly stops. The guy steps out and talks to the marketwomen and a few guys for a few minutes. Then he instructs his sidekick 'wapatie lunch' and this thick wad of brand new 500/- notes comes out. The adults get a K each and I am about to miss out then Kamotho says: 'Ona kimwana, nigikugurira nyina iria'. Pap. Got 500/-. Was in Standard 7. Farewell JJ Kamotho.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/17/2007 Posts: 1,345
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As usual RAO has to be mentioned....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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Buster wrote:As usual RAO has to be mentioned....  How can you not mention him when Kisirani (sorry Kasarani) is soo fresh on our minds?
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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Iganamagana wrote:Buster wrote:As usual RAO has to be mentioned.... How can you not mention him when Kisirani (sorry Kasarani) is soo fresh on our minds? Fare thee well JJ. Babu appeared in deep thoughts during the whole ceremony... One observation..the send off was very calm and speeches were not interrupted. Friends and foes in Central came together with no incidences.
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