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mlennyma		#21 Posted : Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:03:30 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,184 Location: nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: mlennyma wrote: What does this stock swallow to beat the market when all are beaten?? We need to eat. Daily. this is a perfect example of how the index can crash and escape unhurt "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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VituVingiSana		#22 Posted : Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:35:17 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi		mlennyma wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: mlennyma wrote: What does this stock swallow to beat the market when all are beaten?? We need to eat. Daily. this is a perfect example of how the index can crash and escape unhurt Though do not mix up 'share price' to 'profits' ... Unga went through some tough times but they seem to have stabilized i.e. profitability. - Reduction of expensive debt - Focus on higher-end products [vs other millers] - Strong brand names - 100% control of Unga (Uganda) Millers allows them to expand their presence I don't know how profitable bread is but Unga plans to introduce mid-market bread using Ennsvalley but sold under 'Unga' [Ennsvalley Acquisition discussions]. At the minimum, it gives them a captive market for their wheat flour. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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mlennyma		#23 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 6:03:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,184 Location: nairobi		This ugali isn't doing well of late,is the glory gone? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Cornelius Vanderbilt		#24 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 7:18:55 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2015 Posts: 817		mlennyma wrote: This ugali isn't doing well of late,is the glory gone? lakeside folks we throw this question to you!
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VituVingiSana		#25 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:40:23 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi		Still waiting for results. Are they being cooked? If yes, hopefully not over-cooked! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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mlennyma		#26 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:29:37 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,184 Location: nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: Still waiting for results. Are they being cooked? If yes, hopefully not over-cooked! traditionally I have seen them come in between 25th and 30th Sept.any bonus hopes? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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VituVingiSana		#27 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:05:06 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi		mlennyma wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Still waiting for results. Are they being cooked? If yes, hopefully not over-cooked! traditionally I have seen them come in between 25th and 30th Sept.any bonus hopes? Thanks. So this week Friday or next week. Bonuses are a waste of time and effort. Same size of the pie with smaller but more slices = Same size of the share of the pie I hope they have substantially boosted their 2014-15 profits [EPS] from on-going operations and show signs of maintaining a positive profit trend in 2016... 2015-16, will not be easy, characterized by high interest rates, weak KES and inflation. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Cornelius Vanderbilt		#28 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:19:48 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2015 Posts: 817		Interesting move on the charts in the runup to results.can we bank on it results will be good?look at the area circled black.pardon the poor picture quality
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mlennyma		#29 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:29:57 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,184 Location: nairobi		The volumes that has been trading of late are very thin to suggest anything,may be a few hungry teachers "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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VituVingiSana		#30 Posted : Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:29:20 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi		Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote: Interesting move on the charts in the runup to results.can we bank on it results will be good?look at the area circled black.pardon the poor picture quality The Nyaga family (Victus) have 51% but could the 'companies' and 'nominees' accumulating shares be related/connected to the Nyaga family? The Nyaga family owned shares in Ennsvalley which was sold to Unga. The Nyagas are known to increase their stakes using Rights Issues [see NIC]. Top 12 shareholders 68.46% (Jan 2014) 71.09% (Jun 2015) After they get over the 75% hurdle, they can launch a takeover or de-listing. The 75% can be achieved by buying shares from the market or a Rights Issue allocation that favors them. Thereafter, they can separate the real estate, manufacturing and 'brand' assets and find a Strategic Investor for each class of asset. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Mart_Consult		#31 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:25:50 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2013 Posts: 127 Location: Nairobi, Kenya		VituVingiSana wrote: Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote: Interesting move on the charts in the runup to results.can we bank on it results will be good?look at the area circled black.pardon the poor picture quality The Nyaga family (Victus) have 51% but could the 'companies' and 'nominees' accumulating shares be related/connected to the Nyaga family? The Nyaga family owned shares in Ennsvalley which was sold to Unga. The Nyagas are known to increase their stakes using Rights Issues [see NIC]. Top 12 shareholders 68.46% (Jan 2014) 71.09% (Jun 2015) After they get over the 75% hurdle, they can launch a takeover or de-listing. The 75% can be achieved by buying shares from the market or a Rights Issue allocation that favors them. Thereafter, they can separate the real estate, manufacturing and 'brand' assets and find a Strategic Investor for each class of asset. The Ndegwas you mean?? I went into the (Ferry) industry knowing the same thing I knew with all other businesses I went into- Nothing. Then I built it from there. - Sheldon Adelson (Titans at the Table- Giants of Macau)
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VituVingiSana		#32 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:59:40 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,134 Location: Nairobi		Mart_Consult wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote: Interesting move on the charts in the runup to results.can we bank on it results will be good?look at the area circled black.pardon the poor picture quality The Nyaga family (Victus) have 51% but could the 'companies' and 'nominees' accumulating shares be related/connected to the Nyaga family? The Nyaga family owned shares in Ennsvalley which was sold to Unga. The Nyagas are known to increase their stakes using Rights Issues [see NIC]. Top 12 shareholders 68.46% (Jan 2014) 71.09% (Jun 2015) After they get over the 75% hurdle, they can launch a takeover or de-listing. The 75% can be achieved by buying shares from the market or a Rights Issue allocation that favors them. Thereafter, they can separate the real estate, manufacturing and 'brand' assets and find a Strategic Investor for each class of asset. The Ndegwas you mean?? Ndegwa not Nyaga. I had the Tatu saga in my head. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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The optimist		#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:33:07 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/14/2010 Posts: 521 Location: Nairobi		When are they announcing FY numbers Adept Tranport Services
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Impunity		#34 Posted : Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:45:50 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada		The optimist wrote: When are they announcing FY numbers Ask @Njung'e. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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