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mlennyma
#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 4:27:06 PM
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Why are you entering a casino with school fees?you are equivalent to that person taking a short term loan to buy shares..if you value education go and bank that money,negative news in stocks can emerge from nowhere and find yourself crying bitterly.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
ndeshj
#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 4:36:44 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
In the mids of all these........ you have a CDS Account for starters?

@Angelica Yes I do have one an ready to try out
mlennyma
#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 4:58:35 PM
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I cant tell you not to buy but Fortune is 50/50 Just have a clear plan B for your fees payment incase you burn.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Aguytrying
#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 6:48:36 PM
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please don't buy stocks with money you can't afford to lose. speculating with money that you need anytime is the worst recipe for failure in stocks.

put the money in a money Market fund, earn almost 10% in that period.

the best idea you have been given was to be an entrepreneur in campus, and the returns can be high with less risk.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
INTERESTING!
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:31:45 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
please don't buy stocks with money you can't afford to lose. speculating with money that you need anytime is the worst recipe for failure in stocks.

put the money in a money Market fund, earn almost 10% in that period.

the best idea you have been given was to be an entrepreneur in campus, and the returns can be high with less risk.


Applause Applause Applause

Umeongea kama wazee kumi. In the stock market the chances of you loosing money are very high...na pesa ya school fees sio pesa ya kurisk nayo hivyo...especially kama ni ya HELB ujue utalipa!
littledove
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 9:29:04 PM
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faa wrote:
Boss you would rather pay the whole amount to school fees,

trust me investing 300k for shorterm gains in the NSE isnt prudent.

you will end up defiled proper.Put that money in school fees fully.

you have talked like a parent but young people are hunted by ambitions, this the time to learn a lesson or two which will shape him to a future wazua guru. I would advice first to pay 80k fees, then buy Kplc 10000 shares of around 135k to sell sep/ Oct shortly before results or after results, then 200 shares of jubilee at 380. after selling Kplc buy kenol hoping it will remain below 9 with 90k bal of around 60k use it to pay Jan semester. note the 3 stocks compose 60% of my holdings.
remember chewing gum reduces stress, keep 500bob for that as things can turn against expectations. also Oct to Jan is not always a good period for stocks
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
Tall Order
#27 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:30:11 AM
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I agree with @Aguy, dont buy stocks with money you can't afford to lose. Invest the cash in a money market fund with a return of about 9-10%, a small return as compared to stocks but your cash will be perfectly safe, withdraw your 90k when its time to pay the school fees and retain the rest until such a time when you need to use them as school fees.

The earnings might be meagre which might not meet your requirement to raise capital but it will ensure you are in good books with your sponsor, nevertheless the final call is yours, we are only part time advisers to you here.
ndeshj
#28 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:23:56 PM
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Realcement wrote:
ANALYZE FAIDA INVESTMENT BANK BELOW AND MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

Counter Recommendation Comment
ARM
BUY
Our target price of KES 141.07 provides a 76.3% upside potential from the current market of (KES 80.00). With significant limestone deposits in East Africa and investment in integrated capacity, we see ARM as being well positioned to integrate vertically. This will come with significant market power which we expect to sustain growth in the future.
Bamburi
BUY
Our price target of KES 233.24 provides a 33.2% upside of from the current market price of KES 175.00. We expect the export and contractors market to be key drivers of growth. We also expect Bamburi to leverage on its parent company (Lafarge) in its strategy to make cement more of a service than a commodity.
Jubilee
BUY
Our target price of KES 516.85 provides a 35.6% upside potential from the current market share price of KES 381.00. Jubilee’s strong regional presence (about 5 countries), ties to AKFED and strong banc assurance will help it write more premiums. We also see Jubilee’s strong associate business as a key driver of growth.
Kenya Re
BUY
Our target price of KES 26.10 provides a 45.0% upside potential from the current market of KES 18.00. Kenya Re is exposed to a nascent industry and we expect a positive correlation to its written premiums and the industry’s premium. We are also of the opinion that should the mandatory cessations end, growth in international business would cushion Kenya Re.
CIC
BUY
Our target price of KES 11.56 provides a 45.4% upside potential from the current market share price of KES 7.95. We see CIC benefiting (both in Kenya and regional) from its relationship with the co-operative movement both in the writing premiums (preferred insurer for co-operatives) and banc assurance (partnership with co-operative bank).

Thanks alot, say I buy CIC with an expectation of redeeming end Dec, what do you view the projections to be like....
Hence after selling then what counters can I buy
S.Mutaga III
#29 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:41:29 PM
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Joined: 3/26/2012
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ndeshj wrote:
Realcement wrote:
ANALYZE FAIDA INVESTMENT BANK BELOW AND MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

Counter Recommendation Comment
ARM
BUY
Our target price of KES 141.07 provides a 76.3% upside potential from the current market of (KES 80.00). With significant limestone deposits in East Africa and investment in integrated capacity, we see ARM as being well positioned to integrate vertically. This will come with significant market power which we expect to sustain growth in the future.
Bamburi
BUY
Our price target of KES 233.24 provides a 33.2% upside of from the current market price of KES 175.00. We expect the export and contractors market to be key drivers of growth. We also expect Bamburi to leverage on its parent company (Lafarge) in its strategy to make cement more of a service than a commodity.
Jubilee
BUY
Our target price of KES 516.85 provides a 35.6% upside potential from the current market share price of KES 381.00. Jubilee’s strong regional presence (about 5 countries), ties to AKFED and strong banc assurance will help it write more premiums. We also see Jubilee’s strong associate business as a key driver of growth.
Kenya Re
BUY
Our target price of KES 26.10 provides a 45.0% upside potential from the current market of KES 18.00. Kenya Re is exposed to a nascent industry and we expect a positive correlation to its written premiums and the industry’s premium. We are also of the opinion that should the mandatory cessations end, growth in international business would cushion Kenya Re.
CIC
BUY
Our target price of KES 11.56 provides a 45.4% upside potential from the current market share price of KES 7.95. We see CIC benefiting (both in Kenya and regional) from its relationship with the co-operative movement both in the writing premiums (preferred insurer for co-operatives) and banc assurance (partnership with co-operative bank).

Thanks alot, say I buy CIC with an expectation of redeeming end Dec, what do you view the projections to be like....
Hence after selling then what counters can I buy

I am surprised that people still follow stock recommendations from the same brokers who earn 2.1% when you buy or sell. You should watch the wolf of wallstreet before following their recommendations. When you make money on one counter, they have to give you stock recommendations so that they can keep making money. Brokers hate passive investors because they make little money from them. Do your due diligence and dont rely on a broker's advice. He earns whether you gain or lose money and his job is to ensure you are always trading. That is one reason why I do not have an account with an online trading platform.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
Kastone
#30 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:49:42 PM
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Joined: 3/1/2014
Posts: 82
ndeshj wrote:
Realcement wrote:
ANALYZE FAIDA INVESTMENT BANK BELOW AND MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

Counter Recommendation Comment
ARM
BUY
Our target price of KES 141.07 provides a 76.3% upside potential from the current market of (KES 80.00). With significant limestone deposits in East Africa and investment in integrated capacity, we see ARM as being well positioned to integrate vertically. This will come with significant market power which we expect to sustain growth in the future.
Bamburi
BUY
Our price target of KES 233.24 provides a 33.2% upside of from the current market price of KES 175.00. We expect the export and contractors market to be key drivers of growth. We also expect Bamburi to leverage on its parent company (Lafarge) in its strategy to make cement more of a service than a commodity.
Jubilee
BUY
Our target price of KES 516.85 provides a 35.6% upside potential from the current market share price of KES 381.00. Jubilee’s strong regional presence (about 5 countries), ties to AKFED and strong banc assurance will help it write more premiums. We also see Jubilee’s strong associate business as a key driver of growth.
Kenya Re
BUY
Our target price of KES 26.10 provides a 45.0% upside potential from the current market of KES 18.00. Kenya Re is exposed to a nascent industry and we expect a positive correlation to its written premiums and the industry’s premium. We are also of the opinion that should the mandatory cessations end, growth in international business would cushion Kenya Re.
CIC
BUY
Our target price of KES 11.56 provides a 45.4% upside potential from the current market share price of KES 7.95. We see CIC benefiting (both in Kenya and regional) from its relationship with the co-operative movement both in the writing premiums (preferred insurer for co-operatives) and banc assurance (partnership with co-operative bank).

Thanks alot, say I buy CIC with an expectation of redeeming end Dec, what do you view the projections to be like....
Hence after selling then what counters can I buy


The guy is on a roll. Good for him to be ambitious et al. What he doesn't seem to understand is the journey one has to go through to even feel confident as an investor.
“The beauty of success is that it doesn’t matter how many times you have failed, you only have to be right once and then everyone can tell you how lucky you are.” - Mark Cuban
ndeshj
#31 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 9:18:32 AM
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Location: Nairobi
INTERESTING! wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
please don't buy stocks with money you can't afford to lose. speculating with money that you need anytime is the worst recipe for failure in stocks.

put the money in a money Market fund, earn almost 10% in that period.

the best idea you have been given was to be an entrepreneur in campus, and the returns can be high with less risk.


Applause Applause Applause

Umeongea kama wazee kumi. In the stock market the chances of you loosing money are very high...na pesa ya school fees sio pesa ya kurisk nayo hivyo...especially kama ni ya HELB ujue utalipa!

WELL advised I will still way all kind options with caution
hisah
#32 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 6:44:45 PM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
I hadn't seen this thread. Thanks @sparkly for pointing it out.

If we have reached a point where some people want to invest part of their tuition fee in the stock market, I can only say one thing "Smart money is tapped out and are on holiday with wanjikus loot..."

And there's an IPO to boot Pray
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
littledove
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 12, 2014 8:42:41 AM
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quote=mlennyma]Why are you entering a casino with school fees?you are equivalent to that person taking a short term loan to buy shares..if you value education go and bank that money,negative news in stocks can emerge from nowhere and find yourself crying bitterly.[/quote]
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2014/07/what-to-consider-when-buying-shares/
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
webish
#34 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2014 9:47:05 AM
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Hm. Interesting thread.

@ndeshj , have you made a decision?

Life is joy, death is peace, but the transition is very difficult.
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