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maka
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:38:57 PM
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alma wrote:
@murchr i have personal experience at KNH and other hospitals too.

You have just spoiled my day and have reminded me why I hate this country. Was trying to be positive but just can't after watching that.

Rem i posted a thread about medical insurance,if you don't have it you are screwed up,we waste money on stupid things,judges get new mercs,county assembly cabinet ministers get new Mitsubishi pajeros,we are a screwed up country filled with selfish leaders...they should also do an expose of the other shithole called Mbagathi...does the president ever see this things?what does he feel?Is he proud that he heads a country where his own citizens cannot access much needed medical care?it's really sad to say the least.
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washiku
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:52:43 PM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ndemo did put forth several suggestions in yesterdays DN which include evaluating those who get into med sch before they get in the program. That "A" is not a real measure of qualification, there's need 4 us to learn from best practices applied elsewhere.


How should students be evaluated?

What country or countries should we emulate? And why haven't we been able to learn from such models?


Read Ndemos article


Thank you for the prompt @murchr. I have read it.

Now what am wondering is whether we are supposed to be agreeing with Dr. Ndemo or are supposed to think along him.


What do you think?
kangi
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:38:58 PM
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Its the high time we questioned the Governors who are mainly buying ambulances on the health vote. The amounts of money used is enough to at least buy a dialysis machine and capacity building for the nurses' involved after the initial diagnosis. KNH is more about curative, if more money was channeled to preventive medicine, then some solution would be in sight. I think none of the county's has allocated at least 10% of its revenue towards health, and also the majority of us have no med insurance. Me think's that's the major problem we are faced with from individual to state.
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maka
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:55:28 PM
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kangi wrote:
Its the high time we questioned the Governors who are mainly buying ambulances on the health vote. The amounts of money used is enough to at least buy a dialysis machine and capacity building for the nurses' involved after the initial diagnosis. KNH is more about curative, if more money was channeled to preventive medicine, then some solution would be in sight. I think none of the county's has allocated at least 10% of its revenue towards health, and also the majority of us have no med insurance. Me think's that's the major problem we are faced with from individual to state.


@Kangi how many people can afford a yearly premium of lets say the 30k - 40k?So many would be left out...

www.businessinsider.com/...in-the-world-2012-6?op=1

What are this countries doing differently?
KPMDU never wanted healthcare to be devolved coz of the nonsense the governor's would bring...you nailed it,you have a flashy ambulance but pathetic services,no equipment etc beats logic
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murchr
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:09:19 PM
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kangi wrote:
Its the high time we questioned the Governors who are mainly buying ambulances on the health vote. The amounts of money used is enough to at least buy a dialysis machine and capacity building for the nurses' involved after the initial diagnosis. KNH is more about curative, if more money was channeled to preventive medicine, then some solution would be in sight. I think none of the county's has allocated at least 10% of its revenue towards health, and also the majority of us have no med insurance. Me think's that's the major problem we are faced with from individual to state.


A doc will tell you that there's no need for preventive medicine in Kenya, that we're all sick. But how does that help anyway if a doc will pass by you at the Emergency center instead of administering first aid?

And was health better when it was under the central govt? I think its better devolved. What is needed is just leadership funding, and the right people working there
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alma
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:27:48 PM
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So now the doctors want to say that the reason they leave someone to die at casualty is because of devolution or lack of it?

You now know the real problem with health care in Kenya....It's the PEOPLE working in the sector.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
maka
#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:30:50 PM
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Location: Nairobi
alma wrote:
So now the doctors want to say that the reason they leave someone to die at casualty is because of devolution or lack of it?

You now know the real problem with health care in Kenya....It's the PEOPLE working in the sector.


Word...
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butterflyke
#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:53:46 PM
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Location: Hapa
maka wrote:
alma wrote:
So now the doctors want to say that the reason they leave someone to die at casualty is because of devolution or lack of it?

You now know the real problem with health care in Kenya....It's the PEOPLE working in the sector.


Word...


true.

Ndemo has said it all
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gotieno
#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:06:22 PM
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Joined: 12/29/2006
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Location: Kisumu
Very Sad indeed!God have mercy on the healthcare workers!
gotieno
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:08:19 PM
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Joined: 12/29/2006
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Location: Kisumu
Very Sad indeed!God have mercy on the healthcare workers!
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