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Britam buys HFCK shares from Equity
dunkang
#21 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:36:18 PM
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#dunkangWhileYouWereAway, Britam traded at 24/-!!!!!!!!
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Angelica _ann
#22 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:37:22 PM
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dunkang wrote:
#dunkangWhileYouWereAway, Britam traded at 24/-!!!!!!!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I hope you are in!
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innovator
#23 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:22:10 PM
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The chairman of equity has been reducing his stake in equity bank while the ceo has been increasing.

I to not know the trend for the two in britam.
dunkang
#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:26:36 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
dunkang wrote:
#dunkangWhileYouWereAway, Britam traded at 24/-!!!!!!!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I hope you are in!

Kwa hii, niko ndani kama thong!
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Kenyan Oracle
#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:31:30 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
dunkang wrote:
#dunkangWhileYouWereAway, Britam traded at 24/-!!!!!!!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I hope you are in!

Kwa hii, niko ndani kama thong!


@dunkang, what a comparison Laughing out loudly
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:32:09 PM
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Kenyan Oracle wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
dunkang wrote:
#dunkangWhileYouWereAway, Britam traded at 24/-!!!!!!!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I hope you are in!

Kwa hii, niko ndani kama thong!


@dunkang, what a comparison Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly very funny comparison @ angelica unaskia aje hiyo?
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:50:28 AM
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In spite of the comparisons (sic), HFCK is headed south today. Seems reality is starting to sink that Member wants to compete directly with HFCK and we know the outright winner. Innovations required here but seems the cards are still on the table.
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obiero
#28 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:02:47 AM
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muganda wrote:
Considering the musical chairs between Britam, HFCK, Equity; you have to admire the gain in market capitalization just by changing which place in the sitting room you choose to rest your bum smile


There is conspiracy to raise the price by the three firms.. The CMA needs to avoid this kind of cartelism

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
hisah
#29 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 12:52:57 PM
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obiero wrote:
muganda wrote:
Considering the musical chairs between Britam, HFCK, Equity; you have to admire the gain in market capitalization just by changing which place in the sitting room you choose to rest your bum smile


There is conspiracy to raise the price by the three firms.. The CMA needs to avoid this kind of cartelism

Global top market regulators would indeed have flagged these kind of moves. But in KE and with the current regulator, nothing doing. This is moving money from the left hand to the right hand and back.
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:39:31 PM
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hisah wrote:
obiero wrote:
muganda wrote:
Considering the musical chairs between Britam, HFCK, Equity; you have to admire the gain in market capitalization just by changing which place in the sitting room you choose to rest your bum smile


There is conspiracy to raise the price by the three firms.. The CMA needs to avoid this kind of cartelism

Global top market regulators would indeed have flagged these kind of moves. But in KE and with the current regulator, nothing doing. This is moving money from the left hand to the right hand and back.
Who is the Acting CEO of CMA? Who is the Chairman of Britam?
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Aguytrying
#31 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:43:58 PM
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whos complaining? shares that should rally some times do not, at times even go lower.
we'll take this one.

I can see what they are doing but are they hurting anyone?
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obiero
#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:54:31 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
whos complaining? shares that should rally some times do not, at times even go lower.
we'll take this one.

I can see what they are doing but are they hurting anyone?

Surely you know what happened with Uchumi, C&G.. In the USA the meltdown in NYSE was largely due to lack of adequate vigilance by regulators.. Its simply not healthy what the three are doing and they may catch people out

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#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:57:13 PM
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Simply stated the fluactions are not due to creation of value or lack of but simple shifting omney from one hand to the other and making noise about it..
innovator
#34 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:15:17 PM
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Another suspect is centum. Pumping without getting tired/exhausted.
Kausha
#35 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:15:53 PM
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Seriously we surely don't believe Britam wants to own 46% of HF as a portfolio holding to just earn dividend do we. Secondly I am just wondering what price did Britam and Equity agree to do the trade at. This sometimes can be a fools market.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:53:56 PM
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Kenyans amaze me!!

Instead of following the money They sit there at home crying foul for every little thing!

Then 10 years later they will be scrambling to buy HFCK at 300 bob as Britam exits! Laughing out loudly

How do you help such??

Or you think Britam is buying because they are idiots over there??

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#37 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:59:38 PM
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I missed this bus especially HFCK, regrets but I suppose lesson learnt. Rights issue clouded my decision making. I thought if I missed one, I could have jumped on another, I had HFCK, and TPS Serena (TPS - Insecurity) on my radar with, Member and Simba in distant view. Now stuck chasing Member but can't pull the buy through because of huge demand.
whiteowl
#38 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:09:48 AM
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Guys,let the conspiracy be. If you're in any of the 3 buses lets enjoy the ride. The rest jump in or wave good bye as we disappear in the horizon. The only guys that would scare me if they came to town are the flash boys!
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#39 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:41:12 AM
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Guys equity bank is selling the housing finance stake to britam to raise money for equitel which is the mobile phone business.
There is nothing spectacular going on.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Kausha
#40 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:29:02 AM
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@Erickson you are very asleep. Equity doesn't need much money to do the mobile business. They will not be selling calling minutes only sms to their banking network.

Look at this deal from the Britam end and you will see what is happening. I am amazed how only a few seem to see what is happening. Anyways ketini hapo hapo na muketi na amani na umoja as baba Moi would often tell us.

See you in 2 years when HF is 200bob plus.
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